E.T, canada bro. We saw this day, they know unless this is different. I don't think it's different, though sit down on a today show opening up in her first interview since johnny depp won his defamation trial against how could it surreal and yeah? This is something difficult in part. Yes, this has been a long time coming.

Do you stand by your testimony and your accusations against johnny depp? Why not? Well yeah? I don't know this is the one more than a week since the verdict, as you sit here with me now, this is longer actually you're right. Nice is new, it's new. How could it surreal we only had to miss yesterday and now we can skip ahead online and crowds outside the courthouse, made it clear where they stood every single day i passed for three four, sometimes six blocks city blocks lined with people holding signs, saying, burn the Witch death tape amber after three and a half weeks. I took the stand and saw just a courtroom, packed full of captain jack sparrow fans who were vocal energized.

Can you put into words how that felt? This was the most humiliating and horrible thing i've ever been through. I just like, when i said everybody's a sniper. If you like him, i have never felt more removed from my own humanity. I i but in my case i'm right, i felt less than human.

Let's go back to the the day, wait that was just weird yeah. I felt less than human. Let's go back to the day of the verdict. Were you feeling confident naga gaga? That's a great question hold up.

I wish i could say yes to that. I want to say yes to you, but it would it wouldn't be true, even if you think that i'm lying, you still couldn't tell me, look me in the eye and tell me that you think on social media there's been a fair representation. Do you find that mr depp has proven all the elements of defamation answer? Yes, after the six-week trial, the jury found her defamed dep in a 2018 washington post op-ed, in which she wrote, she was a public figure representing domestic abuse. She never mentioned her ex-husband by name denied.

The abuse allegations in court heard won just one of three claims in her countersuit against her ex-husband. That verdict came less than two years after a judge ruled against stepp in a similar case in the u.k in which he sued a british newspaper that called him a wife beater. There was another trial handled in with the same, dealt with the same substantive issues that had even more evidence in. In fact, mine.

My evidence was largely kept out really important pieces of evidence kept out done differently handled differently by a judge instead of a jury. Some evidence is admissible in a uk court that is not admissible in a u.s court. Do you think that maybe he just had better lawyers, i will say his his lawyers did certainly a better job of distracting the jury from the real issues for some people. They just were frankly, disgusted by the whole thing and don't have much that's actually kind of crazy.

I think that was kind of scripted, though no i feel i feel like she got. I mean, of course, she prepared they give the questions ahead of time. They probably do right. They give the questions ahead of time before they show did an interview right, because that that looked like it was way too important that there's no shot, certainly a better job of distracting the jury.

That was a pretty good answer to dodge everything and from the real issues for some people. They just were frankly disgusted by the whole thing and don't have much sympathy for either one of you can you understand that absolutely i would not blame the average person for looking at this and how it's been covered and not think that it is hollywood brats that They're at their worst i'd, but what people don't understand is it's it's actually so much bigger than that this is uh. This is not only about our first amendment right to speak, but here's the thing about the first amendment. The first amendment protects free speech.

It doesn't protect, lies that amount to defamation, and that was the issue in the case. Yes, exactly you can't go into the free speech. Does not protect you. If you, you know, go into a crowded theater and you scream fire.

We get the concept of free speech from the greeks. My understanding of what that means is not just the freedom to speak, what it's a freedom to speak, truth to power. The truth is the word. Yes, that was the issue and that's all i spoke and i spoke it to power and i paid the price in the closing arguments.

The deployment says this is actually a certain performance of a lifetime and said you were acting. What do you say to that says? The lawyer for the man who convinced the world he had scissors for fingers what the i'm the performer i had listened to weeks of testimony uh insinuating that or was that an edward scissorhand uh reference, saying quite directly that you know i'm a terrible actress. So i i i'm i'm a bit confused how i could be both the depth team argued that you were the abuser that you instigated physically. It was my favorite thing.

I never heard it. I responded to it when you're living in violence and it becomes snow dance. Whatever it's called, it becomes normal, as i testified you have to go back. I was distracted that you instigated physical violence.

Did you i never had to instigate it. I responded to it when you're living in violence and it becomes. It becomes normal. As i testify to you have to adapt, you say you were responding, but there is evidence there are tapes in which you acknowledge hitting.

There are tapes in which you say i started the fight. I know much has been made of of these audio tapes. They were first leaked online after being uh edited. What you would hear in those clips are not evidence of what was happening.

It was evidence of a negotiation of how to talk about that with your abuser, but i am looking at a transcript says. He says you start physical fights and you say i did start a physical fight. I can't promise you, i won't get physical again. I mean this is in black and white.

I understand context but you're, testifying and you're just telling me today. I never started a physical fight, and here you are on tape, saying you did as i testified on the stand about this. Is that when your life is at risk, not only will you take the blame for things that you shouldn't take the blame for, but when you're in an abusive, dynamic, psychologically emotionally and physically, you don't have the resources that say you or i do with the luxury Of saying hey, this is black and white, because it's anything but when you're living in it, but then there are other times where you're taunting him and saying oh tell him. I think that would it would be true if he was in an instance or in a scenario or in a thing, not in like a complete state like a world job.

I a man like that domestic violence, 20 second clips or the transcripts of them - are not representative of even the two hours or the three hours. Otherwise she could say my life's been at risk for the last three months, or so i initiated a fight and physical fights all the time because well, i had no choice because my life is at risk. I don't think that that i don't think that makes sense at all. I don't.

I don't know that that's a genuine answer of even the two hours or the three hours that those clips are excerpt from. Could you, in an instance in a one thing that really becomes a risk? Yes, it's justifiable, but in a complete state and he's like oh uh, a widespread thing about three hours, i'm not a lawyer, as i testified to i was talking in those recordings as a person, an extreme amount of emotional, psychological and physical distress. He says it doesn't. Never hit you, he can never.

Is that a lie? Yes, it is what about the witnesses who said they have seen you instigate physical violence. I've seen firsthand how people will file rank and support the person they depend on. Did they all come in and lie in court? I am not here to call any of these witnesses any names i'm here to just kind of talk about it from what it felt like for me. As the person who sat there when i asked his lawyers, why do you think you won, and the answer i got was because she never took responsibility for anything she did in the marriage? I did do and say horrible regrettable things throughout my relationship.

I behaved in horrible, almost unrecognizable to myself ways, there's so much. I have so much regret i freely and openly and voluntarily talked about what i did. I talked about the horrible language. I talked about being pushed to the extent where i didn't even know the difference between you know right and wrong.

I will always continue to feel like. I was a part of this like i was the other half of this relationship because i was - and it was ugly man that smirked that that thank you very beautiful, it was very, very toxic. We were awful to each other. You know i made a lot of a lot of mistakes, a lot of mistakes, but i've always told the truth: okay yeah.

I know that was that was odd, um yeah she's, not helping her case at all. I think um she's digging herself into a hole. A little bit i mean not that i don't even say that's possible at this point. Uh give me.