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Uh, and that's because they have a a pretty good terms of service. like they follow it right? Um, okay so I understand all that, but people still abuse it. Yeah, Okay so my thing. I'm gonna join his call one second.

like my situation. how could X hear that or see that like oh no a Twitch mom told me that's not possible. So sure they told me. they told me so like uh, it never happened, it just happened.

Oh yeah, that's not, that's not okay and even with that band bro I got in banned bro a few hours later I streamed in 30 minutes in the connect hit me up like yo. There's a lot of reports coming in, but you should be fine because Twitch said they handled it again right after I got unbanned they Banned Me offline while I was live again automatically. Yeah, because you were affiliate, you were an affiliate. so like partner when I was a partner too low-key yeah I got banned I didn't know why they'd even send me an email last night.

first time I got banned without an email I hit my partner manager at the time he was like I'm not gonna lie I don't know I'll check back with you tomorrow. She hit me up and he said I'm not gonna lie, you got a lot of reports they banned you. it was for a album cover. then they realized it wasn't TOS it's art and it was like a baby swimming in the water and stuff and so they oh, is it Nirvana yeah Nirvana Nirvana they banned me for that and they, reviewed it and realized it wasn't TOs And then they unbanned me.

Is that not like? Bam report? So there's there's multiple components of this, right? It's a delicate process to talk about and people are gonna love clipping out of context and like using it against. uh, using it for whatever cause they want to use. But um, so I'll just try to I'll just try to keep it as short and simple as possible. Um, so everyone does.

over the course of like a 10 hour time frame when you're live streaming. Everyone basically violates terms of service regularly, right? It happens, whether it be Dmca violations which every twitch streamer engages in, of course, all the time, just watch us. uh, even recognize why they're doing it or like regular terms of service violations and that you wouldn't even comprehend. Now there's of course going to be leniency and most people can get away with it, especially when they're smaller content creators.

But if you have a lot of hate Watchers More hate Watchers is a black content creator and a predominantly white space I Have a lot of hate Watchers Gonna go crazy and say yeah, Don't say that. Don't say that. Don't say that well I know I know, but like I mean I don't give a like. It's just the truth.

There are a lot. You're women have a lot of hate Watchers Additional women Exactly. Issues that, uh, other people would not have. is this: black creators have a lot more hate Watchers that they would have I'm a political streamer so I have a lot of hate Watchers as well.

like it's it's you know it's gonna happen. And this doesn't mean that like white content creators don't have haywashers. Of course they do. Xqc has a lot of hate Watchers he's the Top Dog on the platform.
Of course, there's like thousands of who are constantly watching his trying to get him banned for whatever, whatever. nonsensical. So um, but there's but there's an additional layer of like, you know, diligent, almost delusional. hey.

Watchers they're just like sitting there trying to find any and every moment that they can you to use against you, right to get you banned. And Twitch sometimes unfortunately, responds to that outrage specifically on Lsf from a bunch of redditors who are manufacturing outrage in in a way where they capitulate to that right. For some that you know in the real world, people would consider to be nonsensical. but what's um, the Cracker Bans specifically were that? I think um, like.

that was a great example of that. There was articles written about it from all of these. you know, Sjw news websites, right? and liberal media laughing at Twitch Banning Someone for the usage of the term cracker, right? Um, but in in the little insulated community that we're in, it was what's that? Oh, it's the coffee. Thank you.

In the little insulated community that we're in, it seemed like it was a big deal and it seemed like a valid reason to ban someone. which is whatever. it's their platform, this is their terms of service. You just gotta abide by it even if you don't agree with it, right? Wait, hold on.

March let me sorry which I'm not really mad at I'm not really mad at that. I'm I was just annoyed that A was telling me something does not exist when it clearly happened. Well, it doesn't and that's Italian it doesn't yo like Twitch mod said this, so yeah, that's it. I or um or usually if you're a large enough content creator.

when you go through the manual process, when you get like the automated bands or you you chat chat guys I'm mostly clientele to break dos on purpose for it. and there's the auto line. it has to be Auto when you get to a certain level of like Mass reporting I think the website. What if all the universe I was to report my own? let's say another.

Channel and we all smoke the out of it. That would it get banned instantly or not? It would prove that it would prove a point instantly in order to make sure that uh, there is no. CP is right. It was like a biography.

We're not doing that like that would get everyone involved with, uh in trouble from disseminating from spreading on their websites. They probably have like a level. Uh, they probably have a level where like once you hit that level, it just like Auto triggers a shutdown of your VOD It's an understandable part of this. Okay, well, it was a it's an understandable part of like operating a social media website like for example, uh on Twitter I believe like certain links are banned across the board.
you can't even DM it to people right? Wait, did he just leave. Oh, he went into the other call you see here guys, let's go I mean in the middle but I was way before all of this ass. there's a two people in this drama. we were having a conversation.

I got minus one guys one of your guys. Okay, so I got minus one guy. Don't don't get one guy, Don't get one guy. Let me just explain something.

So I think that especially as an affiliate, your layer of protection or even as a partner, your layer of protection gets leveled up from um, from like, uh, the the non-automated bands I'm talking about like because everyone, every band gets manually reviewed. but if you're an affiliate, they just see a thousand Mass reports and go all right. this click ban if you're a partner, but like a relatively new partner, you because the moderation team is entirely different than the accounts team right? Like they don't even communicate for the most part with one another, even though like internally inside of the company, they're in the same company. you probably get a little bit more protection and a little bit more leniency.

And when you're one of the largest content creators consistently on the platform, you get the most amount of leniency because they know who you are, what you represent, what your values are, and what you, uh, what you believe so people can't like easily misconstrue you with, uh, click baited, right? Um, it's normal and it's a part of the growing pains on a platform, especially a predominantly white space that like now has black content creators. So what I was stating was that, uh, it's not even like direct out and about white supremacist racism or anything like that. So, but more so that like people don't, simply understand that, uh, if you're a black content career in a predominantly white space and you don't have a like a lot of of black moderators working internally within the company, you might some some things might get lost in the nuances and and you might be motivated to to hit the band Hammer without recognizing that like the thing wasn't you know, out of pocket or the thing that uh, the thing contextually would not be uh, inappropriate, bro bro, you read my Tweet me bro at the time I was an affiliate I Got spam reported and auto band twice. You read the tweets how does it correlate to your boy Dio who's got Ben how's it going I don't know I made the Tweet because you said spam reporting is not a thing on Twitch you Tacho moderate is not a thing I Just wanted to say that not Bruce I Literally said in the comments yo The Brute Situation brother, brother, Bro: why are you guys fighting in arguments backwards? These are like unfolding it.

You were like we're like we're like we're getting damaged. Yo who made a statement? You made a general statement I reply to that general statement saying that is Cap whatever Mario was talking to. If we send 100 000 reports to an affiliate account or a new account to, let's say we're targeted. it won't get banned Identity: What happened to me? What happened to you So so why did it happen to me then? So you're saying it didn't happen to me I'm gonna play Bend You huh? An employee Bend you Literally okay so X someone that's it that Twitch told me I was live streaming I got an influx of reports.
They banned me live. They said it was two years ago too, right? This was two years ago and then another one. Chance doesn't like you did the manual review and just banned you. It happened to me before I got reported right I Go and some Buster that doesn't like me push the band button without any much of a chance.

I appealed and I won. They made a mistake, they made a bad dollar, happens, it's gonna automated it bro. I don't I don't know what to tell you because I can't get the dude to talk live right now. but he was telling me when when Twitch is getting an influx of reports because you like yo, you gotta get partner, you got to get partner.

right now they're just gonna, they're just gonna ban your ass quick as when they get that money. yeah to moderate all Affiliates And there's another thing you got to remember. This is what I was talking about. like there's a kill switch right? there's a kill switch.

What? I mean by that is like you can't have live shootings. For example, like a mass shooting live streamed, you can't CP live stream. You can't have porn live stream wait which is. but they are though when people some people some people have done in the past and what I'm trying to say is because because there is like there has to be like a kill switch protocol right? So if you reach a certain level, Twitch will never openly admit this by the way, no matter what, but if you reach a certain level of mass reporting the VOD probably the VOD I and this is my speculation automatically is considered like you know, really dangerous material so that uh, it'll trigger like an auto lock.

Okay, they do this for even manual review. For example, when you get Nets DG violated every day just like I do something that I don't even usually talk about that much because you know I don't want to encourage the mass reporting because they it only gets worse. um uh, when you get that done, sometimes they literally will shut your VOD off like it. they'll stop your VOD from being disseminated.

and when they put it up for manual review right, you've seen that happen to you right? Felix look at all Okay, okay I have to be able to do okay. it's listen. I I don't give a if I'm gonna be wrong by this from what what I understand I have a pretty good master of all this and all the inner workings of it. Again, it is still a human at the end of the day who ends up doing it I've seen channels get reported hot thousands of times live.

If there's a kill switch, it would have killed literally. Okay unless it unless it has enough people watching and enough bands that kills triggering that kills. which means thousands of people like it needs to be thousands of like. the the bar you need to get to is like very very dedicated.
like in order to get to that level you need to get Mass reported thousands of care how it's done if it's if enough people reported me and it was because a bunch of reports came in I don't care if a person came and looked, it was because I was mass reported. they do. but even then it doesn't mean massive amounts like I Know we just think like there's like a crazy I did actually like um giveaway channels. whatever get not supported it.

None of them went down until she even showed up. Does that work sir? Yeah, we'll We'll never know. We'll never know what the threshold is. but I I know for a fact that there there has to be a threshold specifically like every every social media platform has a bot or like has a has a literal kill switch protocol.

It has to happen. Otherwise you would have like I'm not talking about sweepstakes or Elon Musk uh uh live streams that are bought it rides, all reviews are combined it and see if it gets better. Well I'm not I'm not even saying it's still like that. but back then when it when it happened to me that the reason was wasn't even something that could be debated.

it was for hateful symbols in my title like a swastika or some. There was nothing like that. The life thing was like oh join my stream oh no you song and I will go and say what I know for a fact some employees in the past Maybe Not today anymore. Um, at moderation.

we're just actually unskilled and stupid. There was at the time some moderation I Still think it is a human error. Somebody push this. Push the button whether it's a dumbass or not.

It was because of mass reports. Oh my God Oh my God Oh my God Oh my God Oh my God Felix Felix I'll give an analogy. Dude was literally telling me when I got her in band. there's a lot of reports coming in, but Twitch said they fixed the issue so you shouldn't get back I Got abandoned 10 minutes of being live.

10 minutes for the same reason. Oh, a hateful symbol was in your top. There's none of that bro. There's no way someone reviewed that.

Yeah, this period right here and it's how it looks like some racist he's saying it doesn't matter like no, no I understand here. Okay, excuse me saying that like a human being could be personally like motivated by a vendetta. a human being can be like overworked and and not realize that they're just like hitting the band button in an unjustifiable manner. but it's still a human being that's hitting that Bam button right? That's what you're saying right? Felix Yeah, it was it's problem as reports which is fair enough, but at the end of the day it's still a two-pointed failure system.
Not a one point. So saying that, yo guys I got bad because of one dog system. No, your man, because this isn't Maybe you can say sloth. It's still like two point system.

And there's a human error that was the last thing they could have saved. and then there wasn't I'm not saying there wasn't, but was mass reporting involved? Yes or no. Yes, that's how long was it. That's irrelevant.

I'm not saying it you can do because of Santa Claus There's two folds to this. Okay, there's this is a two-prong approach. One I Think well. one.

I Do agree with you I do think that the overwhelming majority of bands is done by a dude who's just like looking at, maybe not even the full context of the situation. especially if you're like a smaller partner or a relatively newer partner. You know what I mean They don't know your background like that and they just see thousands of uh Mass reports coming in and they hit the Bam button without even thinking twice about it. So that's still human moderation.

There's human error in human moderation That's always going to happen. So technically you're right. it is a consequence of mass reporting. But what you're also stating is that there has to be an auto trigger.

And I think that websites like this. Absolutely. Websites like this do have like a kill switch. Every website has to have it for things that are like immediately illegal, even like spreading it, seeing it, allowing it to exist on your services floating because of thing is we're burning fossil fuel at the Wazoo everybody's burning all the fossil fuel overnight and if the plant it starts to die right and in some laws about to pull up and says stop the fossil fuel burning it's about to happen right? and then the people vote nope we are not passing that law and then the plan explodes and then people say oh dude oh my God Fossil Fuel I Cannot believe they've done this bustle feels so so bad.

No, it's nothing but human. They're gonna fix it at the end of the processor. Here's the problem. another behind it.

Does that make sense or not? Did you get did you get it? Who gives a it could have been saved at the end? it didn't Why? Because of the people get what you're saying at the end Bro: I get 100 get what you're saying I never said humans wasn't involved at all but I'm I was just saying like bro like I don't know the way I'm looking at it like I don't know especially back then the mass reporting thing like it was a thing for me I don't know I get what you're saying though I get what you're saying. It doesn't matter because a human a human could have stopped it or some. but I yeah like the way the way it happened and the reasoning they gave me it did not feel like a human actually looked at that like it like damn near impossible. Maybe it was a little stupid little I had the same thing I seen a bunch of reports okay let's just ban this guy.
but in my the way my brain interprets that yo if if I wasn't being Mass reported in that moment, a guy wouldn't have to make that decision I have a I have a quick question and maybe this is because like I'm in Japan and I'm like in Holiday mode. but why is everyone so angry about all this? Like we're all we're all twitch streamers on the same platform until you called me delusional. that's my God we have. Okay, okay, hold on, hold on.

but like we all, we all literally have to deal with the same kind of like dumb nonsense. You know what I mean for different reasons I don't know why everyone and their audiences are just like yelling at each other just like coming in here being like Hassan you're Alex Jones Andy like who cares bro okay I'm Gonna Keep it a buck. okay I'm gonna give it a buck again I'm not even offended I don't give a again I Just think it's odd the tripling down, quadruple down blaming of the system bro I suppose they need to take some some sort of at least a glimpse of accountability for what you do as a person and what it causes and the things that come back to you and you can say yeah, yeah, that happened because I did this Let me do some some system or some dogs or some or whatever the that's what I think I mean I I I Take account I've been banned by every single person that is in this call right now. I Agree I agree with you accountability for when I get banned and I think it's like an apt band.

Yeah, you know my 911 sentiments deserved. they were ban worthy. Okay I get that I totally understand we're not raging I'm just saying that like I'll use I'll use do as a good example actually Dio oh my God JoJo reference Okay, oh um okay. I'll use I'll use Bruce as a good example.

okay Bruce saying uh, kill yourself is bandworthy Bruce saying crackers is not in my opinion and I will definitely defend that. Okay I mean that's a hill that I've died on and that's a hill I will continue to die on I don't give a it's ridiculous Okay, but yes, if Bruce got banned for saying like you know people should kill themselves or whatever, yeah, you know we. We've all been there. We've all wanted to say that to someone I know I certainly have that part that's justifiable.

This is justifiable band that's a rule that like everybody understands and is well established on the internet as a terms of service violation. Okay, I personally I Personally as a white person uh, still utilize the the saltine snack uh uh sentiment regularly. Let's talk philosophy. Okay, okay I don't give a about that word I can give a okay I come from French Canadian Okay, doesn't it doesn't it? People were just coming down the internet and I don't know what the it meant.

You know today, you know what you know today. I still don't know what the it means. You know what? I don't give a I'm not offended by internet. but I think if you look at it in more in a more analytical way, what is the true root uh, behavior of saying that word? What is, where does it come from right? In my opinion, it's from.
It's from diminishing somebody for the for the color of their skin straight up right? or it can be. It could be a chat I Can't even be a Karen Literally What? Bro, no bro, No. Karen and cracker are identical Because it's still it still captures the actions of a particular person. You're still solidif you're still identifying a group of individuals specifically women.

Okay, you're still stigmatizing and identifying a group of individuals. We can't say like like when you call a man, um you say oh, that's a Karen it's It's no different than utilizing the term cracker against uh, no matter who you're talking about I will let you win that because it's about the action. You win this one. Here's another one.

Sometimes people make videos about a male Karen Oh no, that's a that's a male Karen This Do you think that this applies in other context? As if let's say you're black or white? There's some people say I Know sometimes everywhere mix people. Sometimes they say yo this black white person like like a black cracker. That's what you're saying. Yeah, there is it.

Yeah, that does work except there's also a separate term for it anyway. which I will not be saying yeah, there is a separate for that I But there is a word for it. Yeah, yeah. okay from one or something.

When you be a Karen you like a a overly zealous, offended person who yells a lot and complains about the most mundane to make everybody's day worse. and you can be a guy, a girl, an animal. It could be an alien and still be a Karen If this doesn't apply this concept or ethnicity, it's referencing a white woman though. like no, it doesn't Yeah, no, that's right.

Yes, it does. Yes, it does. Monica That's where it came from. That's why people say it and not a different name.

But listen, listen. um. Cracker in the same way is identical. Because it is.

It's talking about a person who is completely oblivious to the racial Dynamics in America That's where that comes from. It's a white person who is oblivious to racial Dynamics and systemic racism in America. So it is literally identical. and it's in Wikipedia too.

Like Karen uh is is a slang for a white woman perceived as entitled remaining beyond the scope of what is normal. The etymology of the word cracker derives from whip cracking, right? Uh, as a as like a slaver, so it's still even in and of itself. Like when you say cracker like, you're still giving power to the person that you're technically calling it. I'm getting because I can I Can this another argument and obliterate it? Okay, this is.

this is the this is the Wikipedia slash. What does this like mean exactly according to the science? Is this how we use it in society Is how people use it? Absolutely not. No, it's not. No, it's not.
Wait, what? Yes, it is. Karen Karen Really came from seeing a bunch of white ladies complain about black people for no reason. That's when people really cops on black people for like walking down the street in the neighborhood. That's when they started saying oh, Karen Karen because it's a basic average white woman name so that's why they said Karen And then they started applying that to to things.

And then how we use it now is to describe this. Behavior Talking about what? no, no, no, no, listen, listen, listen, listen It literally is utilized in The Identical capacity. A Karen is someone who is entitled okay calling a manager. It's a set of actions and it also still maintains like a level of power within it.

When you're calling a manager, the manager listens to you. so like ultimately they're saying they're still giving power to that person. In that regard, there's still systemic power within. Uh A Karen This is like very difficult to do.

Anybody has power when you use the word cracker which by the way like I think it gets overused and and becomes cringe. especially when like you got uh young angry Zoomers who are like oh, every cracker or whatever and then people go like over the top and like lose their mind and they say this is so racist like it turns into like a Fox News uh news cycle for some goddamn reason. Um but but it is the exact same thing. It's an entitled white person, right? it is.

It's an entitled person who is oblivious to to racial Dynamics in the country Damn same So you are. You're refusing the the existence of of a male care and then or or or a black Aaron Or that's not the point though. It's because it's very important. It's very important.

It's not evolved. Whatever it evolved or not, it's still the way it's used, right? right? That's the division. Whatever That's the definition or not, it's still how that matters the most. The same way that you could say that you could say I oh my.

God I don't want to go through the territory. Um, same way. I'm not gonna go there. but you get it though right.

it's how it's not what is you. The reason why you have to say mail Karen though kind of proves the point that like what you're describing quite literally is about a white woman. Like, if you wouldn't need a qualifier, you're right because males can be black. That's it.

They can only be. They can only be girls. Like, what the you talking about? Wait, what? No, you misunderstood what I'm saying because Karen automatically implies white lady entitled white lady, right? Which is why you had to have. you have to add a qualifier to it by saying he's a male Karen You're behaving like a male Karen or you're being a Karen because the word comes from the the it being a woman and then now it's used in a way that like yeah, not give anybody yes Just like anybody could also behave in a matter consistent with being a C word a cracker Yeah, I Don't know how that even means.
that's that. That's literally how people use it. They see a black people, a black person to act in a certain way column. Uh, the C word.

What do you mean Not not the cracker word though. the diversity word. yes there is a different C word for uh a a black person behaving in that way that you definitely you that you actually can't say that that's E-word um yeah I'm not doing then I Completely lost track of everything I have no idea what the this is I'm gonna give it a buck. Okay ultimately everyone needs to calm down.

I think people are so mad. What the I think I think it's just as a basis. it's a behavior you don't want to be um, imagine, shown or replicated right to to lower something down right to the simplest thing it like like the color of their skin and if you can justify for one right then people will just wait for another one. It's trash I Don't think people should be doing that.

not because it offends me because it might offend somebody else instead. Okay that principle I understand and agree with we've you and I have had this conversation in private when you said yeah Hassan is being racist or whatever when I got banned for uh saying the C word and you and I had this conversation in private and I and I agree with you I think that like your behavior uh means that it's like totally allowed and it can get out of hand which is why I Reign it in oftentimes but it doesn't change the principle behind it which is why it it comes across like I'm doubling down whenever we talk about this even if like, uh, constantly spamming it in the chat is going to make it a I guess less safe space for some white people who are personally taking offense to the word even though depending on where you're at like Florida for example, people call themselves crackers in Florida White people call themselves literally crackers. There's merchandise like it's it's like it is such an innocuous and and uh, otherwise like inoffensive sentiment that like people call themselves that okay, um, um, it's true here. I I Don't think we should.

So by that logic, what about the the the You know, What about the other one? Does this Sim apply there? The other word I've called myself the harder a few times. Again, context is what matters in this circumstance. obviously the the word cracker given its etymology. Given its historical context, its historical association with power and whiteness is not as offensive as the other word because the other word is intended to dehumanize uh and and successfully has dehumanized a group of people throughout the history throughout the foundation and uh continued History of the United States of America Yeah, the N-word but when you say the C word are like, what do you mean, are you talking about personally you can't compare the words to me personally, is nowhere near the same.
But yeah, of course, if it's against Twitch TOS I Just I just I Just won't like I disagree with it, but gotta follow the rules. It is what it is. I just I Never feel that they need to use it ever Any of them I Just I mean I'm not trying to be a virtual singular I just don't want you to play in it. It has no value from it all.

I just I Still think that you shouldn't be using slurs like that. That's just it as a basis. It's just I think I think if I if I go down that rabbit hole of doing that over and over again, then I'll justify doing it to another one and another one another one at that point. I just become somebody who's just overall a discriminator and that's just not.

That's just trash I Don't know it's trash. Wait wait, just just just a question. I Just want to see something. So a few years back, Cracker Nobody used to really care like like people didn't care about people calling people cracker and but if in a few years they they treat Karen the same way.

Would you consider carrying a slur like do you wait, do you consider crack wrestler X Okay, the thing, the thing is that there are dimensions for slurs for certain word and there's also something right that is, Um, how it's used right. Whether I think it is or not, it is considered to be a slur. but slurs are getting out of control. There's a list of slurs out there from some company.

you talk about the Stanford one I don't know 99 of them 99 So in that regard, uh I I think I think uh, the word slur is losing. it's it's uh, it's value I think it's like if I just want to know do you consider cracker wrestler though when somebody use I come from another spot okay I think I think it's uh, it's used as a slur I think I generated people attempt at least to use as a slur. but personally, I don't really give a about that I don't care, that is, but that I know for a fact that when people use it, it's what they intend to do. That's the only thing that matters.

It's why I think the people I got banned fret in the Box on thingy because that's what he meant by it and it's obvious. that's why it's what you mean to the intention that matters sometimes, not the result itself. Do you think I mean the the funniest part about this is that like this is, this is a very difficult concept to Broach because like whenever you talk about whiteness as a concept, people just like fundamentally misunderstand what you're saying, right? Um, whiteness is a what? the my camera just broke? Yes, it's just whiteness. Well yeah, oh, you're right.

yeah of air and just blow that ass in they don't want, they don't want to look at you I'm in Japan and my camera is broken now. bro. Um, don't want to look at you anyway. Put me on the screen.

Yeah, No, No shot bro, no shots. Okay, Listen. Listen. Listen.

Listen. Um. whiteness is a concept. Whiteness is a concept is about power, right? There is no such thing as like a a well-defined uh group of white people that you can speak on in the same way that you can talk about black people because black culture and Blackness was created through uh Shadow slavery through intergenerational trauma whereas white people is the the in-group that is supposed to be in power.
So whiteness is about like having power. This is why there's a difference when you uh, when you talk about white people in general or you say like oh, white people do this, Why people do that But when you talk about black people in a similar capacity, especially as a white person, it comes across racist. um. whiteness.

Also is an ever expanding concept. Uh, if you look back far enough Benjamin Franklin Considered literally everyone that were not Anglo-Saxon uh uh Englishmen to be non-white they thought Benjamin Franklin thought German people and Swedish people Nordic people were considered swarthy and not white. Literally made arguments about not allowing German into the country because they were not white and they were going to Germanize the uh, they were going to Germanize America These concepts are a little bit ancestral. Yeah, no no.

but the reason why I'm explaining this is because that shows that whiteness as a concept has expanded throughout time. When Irish people were on, they were on on the virtue of not being considered white but then they became White So what do you remember? All the history and all the things behind it? They they generally take into account the history and the development of the 1940 boats of Normandy and if they come back, that's how I'm not going to use that word. Bulma Not only they do and then they say this person is white c word the same way you would say this person is this that word and I that no no no no when when someone utilizes the term white that's where it comes from though because because when you on someone normally in other places like in Europe and there is no there is always this funny Dynamic Well Europeans would be like why do Americans care about race so much It's so weird because Europeans Oftentimes don't on people on the virtue of being white but instead on their ethnic backgrounds and that is a remnant of it's it's shut off I Don't know why the camera's not working that is a remnant of like the the blood Quantum You know the One drop rules and slavery and the justifications when you use it empirically. When you use these things empirically in the on the field in the industry, is that what the person feels if you go with this? it's an elementary school right? and some kid gets bullied for being black? Does he think of the history and the oh, his coaches being devalued? He just thinks I'm Black and I'm being bullied and that sucks and that can happen for somebody who's White don't normalize that behavior I I don't disagree with that I don't disagree with that I don't disagree with that I don't think uh, no I don't I don't I don't I don't think that what you're saying is wrong.
Okay, my camera just fixed am I It's good for now I think if we just stayed out of the light. okay, um, that still doesn't change the while I agree with you on this. It doesn't change the historical context which is why. Like, although I understand the best practices and what not to do I still personally recognize that if I'm talking about the history of it, that's still very important to address and very important to recognize.

Do you see what I'm saying like when I take it on as like when I put my political commentator hat on. I'm going to use this as an opportunity to educate people on the concept of whiteness and why it's different and and that white people should not be offended in the same capacity or should not feel fragile and and uh and and you know, feel like you're talking about every single white person because whiteness is the default. Whiteness is power in that regard. Okay, I mean I'm white.

Look, you and I are both white. Do you get offended? No, you already admitted that you don't get offended. You understand that some people might have the capacity some people might get offended and in the same vein, you know women probably might get offended. Especially white women might get offended if you're using the term Karen but we pick and choose what we find to be appropriate and allowed.

Um, And that's just how language works, right? Um, for example, uh, do you I don't think you have the r word band? You don't use it yourself, but you don't have a band in your chat do you? I don't know. Is that bannable? No, it is not as far as I understand, but outside of which personal guilt of the usage of the word has nothing to do with my my perceived thing that I see going on and the ongoings of outside world. Okay, it's a personal, very personal. uh I believe slash behavior and that's all I give a about.

That's all I care about I don't use it. Yeah, that's it. You're talking about the r word, you're talking about cracker r word. Yeah, same I I used to use it all the time.

Yeah okay I think it has a great way I feel weird in my stomach when I use it now I I feel I I felt like it had a great mouth feel to it. You know what I mean when you say it. it just like feels feels great and I've looked for I've looked for Alternatives and I stopped saying it. well we started restart it up a really slow RIT restarts.

but but yeah but basically we understand that language has evolved back in the day. It was idiot and and you know was was uh found as a as a substitute for idiot because idiot was the unacceptable. What's your substitute? What's your substitute for a what do I what do I save instead I mean I say troglodyte respectable bro please no what the that is wrong with the Amy's cave man. It's good.
he's got he's got oh there's no way I'm calling I'm I'm in like a roast battery I do I do see chocolate a lot I say psychotic a lot I say bum I say really lame I said yeah dumbass you know dumb Also these words are brain broken I'll give you some heads up these words are are getting cracked down on it which I don't agree with you. So some companies yeah they do sponsors and then allow you just anything that involves mental health I think it's crazy, unhinged or or uh, none of those. they're all banned. No I know it's dumb as it is brain dead.

Okay, that's brain dead. You want to know why? Because you need pejoratives. What these people are getting mad at is literally just the concept of mean words. in general.

Pejoratives in general, you can't be. You cannot abolish the utilization of pejoratives because there's going to be good things and bad things. We are always going to look for new contextual ways of saying the same no matter what you do. True.

So which is why. like language evolves in that regard. but it doesn't matter. Ultimately, there's going to be new ways of saying the same.

Goddamn yeah. So many times she's coming. People like, like, uh, like Snowman anything like that I don't remember what it was called. Hold on, hold on hold on, there's a bunch of stuff.

This is a side note. This was a great This was a great talk. Great history lesson right here I love this but this is a side note. did Twitch rob me? Can I explain this situation like they got robbed I think they me listen that month where I got banned that I was telling you about right? Azan I got and a few days later unbanned and then banned again right? My dashboard said like negative a couple like thousands of dollars right? I thought it was a visual glitch because that's what they told me in the in the report that I sent the next month came along I didn't get no payout from twitch and then each sub that I did get it was just lowering the balance of my negative till I got to zero and then the next one I finally got paid and it never and like I never got the money for that for like two months I was just like paying off my debt I promise again.

But all these problems that you've had I've had them before I've gone schemas before because of a glitch. Uh, because I I resigned a contract and it didn't apply and then it was a visual glitch and then it was a non-visual glitch and I had to get it fixed. but you're right there. so something good just happened.

It's why you gotta check your for sure. Yeah, that sounds that sounds insane I would definitely talk to my account manager about that. Like that. seems like wage theft dog.

That's like completely have an account manager now. but since that happened so long ago, you think they'd even do anything about it? It was like a year and a half ago. I'm sure. yeah I mean maybe yeah Definitely.
I think that's like that's actionable for sure bro. You go in your dashboard, you crunch the numbers. Yeah, you don't even have to do this. It's just a planet Hell no, that's just that's not not right.

The okay, All right. Yeah, Okay, well. I'm I'm here to I'm here to ask everybody as the mediator. I'm the referee dude.

uh, to calm down. Okay I I Don't know. Maybe I have a new outlook on life because I'm in Japan But uh, you know I feel like people get very heated over these things when in fact, like especially the twitch streamers themselves, when they talk to one another, it's like an entirely different conversation and I feel like we're getting puppet Mastered by a bunch of weirdo neck bearded losers who come into these subreddits and then they write I mean I've never experienced no like this until I find out what a Lsf is. Bro the is demons I'm telling you what the is that bro, they love they look.

It's no different than swatting. It's no different than Mass reporting. It's all about manipulating the content creators that they watch. Everybody loves being like the Puppet Master behind the scenes and that's why these do it.

So don't love that though, bro. you have segments just going through that. Yeah, but don't no. I I I don't go on Elizabeth any longer I stop going on it and I got myself banned deliberately until they unbanned me.

unfortunately because I hated it. It was like hurting my oh I said they're just hurting my brain I Like drama one to a mad content. So I don't give a we're not even shooting for that I don't give a yeah. Well they for the most part Elizabeth doesn't come after you in the same way they come out.

they do sometimes. but they don't come after you as consistently as they do for uh I Love you on their ex bro. They love you on that Lsf. Bro Haters There's different groups of haters and they come in.

They prey on it. They use it like as a launching pad. so they'll come in and swarm a post and make it seem like you have way more haters than you actually do. Um, they do that all the time.

It's just thumbs down. They thumbs down all the people with logic. you can't see them. it's very hot and cold.

Again, if I do something that is, that is all the better than usual. Again, I'll get a lot of price for it way more than I shouldn't Yeah if it is something that is a little bit under acceptable, isn't this a guy who said the bad words oh I was wrong. Oh my bad. I thought you said the N-word instead.

Whoa. oh sorry misinformation. I will do next I'm Tom Foolery Oh what the is this man who acts like that and look the have they have alt accounts they will always uh, they will always utilize it. They'll deploy that like a weapon.

it's it's dumb as uh I try to avoid it as best as possible. but like I said, don't be fooled. Don't be suckered into yelling at one another over uh you know dumbass uh the weirdos that are like coming in to like drive a narrative because that's what this is ultimately like I when I look at this when I look at this and there are plenty of like up and coming content creators on here that are utilizing this as a way to make a name for themselves. okay yeah, where where they'll be like yeah, look at how racist this is when like if you took a deep breath and like talked it through you'd be like okay it's not that big of a deal but it's also uh at the same time.
uh you know definitely. uh you know it's just like it can be cringe at certain points but like it's it's at the end of the day we're we're freaking out over nothing. like literally nothing. Yeah, well I mean I mean I mean all right for people it is something though that's a big deal because it's I mean I I think Dia was a big Creator and he's got a lot of friends especially recently with all the uh who's Dio who's Dio what is that talking about Bruce Oh D-e-o Yes I always got a deal isn't it? D-e-o Theo is like the JoJo villain D-e-o Um, well I think I think I think recently it has been a big uh, a push.

definitely. You know diversity. especially in the uh, the black on the Creator sphere. there's been a bunch of exploding uh, which is a very good thing here, right? It's because now there's a lot more diversity, right? and representation.

Oh, there's no diversity Reddit Said that our fan base in me Bruce is like 60 white and we're lying to ourselves and they're all little cringy Suburban White kids are getting so impressed about uh, the usage of the term cracker then if it's just white guys saying it I don't know they said we're lying to ourselves. they're 70, we're 80 white just pretend to be black. All the poles in my chat that say 70 black are lies. Every time we meet black people, they're like I don't know black person I Don't know bro.

they said black people don't use twitch like that. That's what they was talking about like even if they didn't you guys helped bridge the gap to make them do it and be integrated into like I Guess that part of the of the overall internet culture which is a good thing. It's always a positive to include people on the things that they that they could enjoy. I Think that's a good thing.

Is it not? no, No, it is. Of course it is Okay, Yeah, okay, all right. give it to me straight. the Am I Losing to Hassan X who'd you vote for for just shatter of the year? Come on, don't don't do this I mean just shout out of there just Shadow there.

Listen to me. Come on, talk to me personally. I'm white. Yes, we gotta stick together.

You know what I'm saying, the games we played and who'd you vote for Bro, Don't don't Come on million no face cam. Yeah, no face cam. you know. Um I think I think okay, this is not about what's good.

it's not what's bad I think if it's not, doesn't again, it's just setting a word I think he's gonna quit streaming it I voted for him. The simple base is that it's what's bad about that. Okay, true, these things have kind of like I'm conditioned to care about them enough to like it makes me happy if I get it but not care if I don't That's the thing I lost the midst of last year. okay I need one yo yo.
What do I have to do in in the next week to beat this? X Like what do I got to do I don't know. it's tough. it's tough yo he. There's only so much I'm getting a lot of hate I'm getting a lot of hate Anyway, people people are saying I'm an anti-white racist.

You just you could do white solidarity chat. He's anti-wire races. Bro facts, facts. You hear that? Y'all hear that? Yeah, um I don't know what? Who else isn't just shedding anyway? Um Iron mouse or something.

She does chat a lot and pay money like they're they're everyone is great. Like I don't have an issue with anybody else I mean whoever wins, uh, wins, who cares on that category is great in their own way. Oh my Cam is broken again. except for me.

You cannot. You cannot like, like outdress me there like that's bad. If you win and you look better than me, that's tough. What do you want? That's gonna happen 100 I I I'm afraid to report that.

Can you tell me the color? No one? I don't know yet. No one will admit that though. Don't worry, everyone will clown on my fits even though sometimes I wear that's hard. Everyone always still goes oh you suck.

Yeah, yeah. by the way yo I've seen uh um I'm a mouse. um Fisherville I'll I'll link it on this program. Wait what? bro Yeah, look at that.

Iron Mountain is great. She's the best! She's awesome. Oh I don't know what that is but I'm not clicking on it yo. stop making.

stop making. stop making sexy faces bro. Stop yo. Why are you looking at my yo.

stop stop. That's Not allowed. What was that? What's up? What's up Like he's doing? He's he's he's weaponizing. Oh no, Can you? can you resign? Can you make a rizz face? Uh.

excuse. Deploying is his strongest weapon? What's the wrist face? What is that? Is that like? um is that a light light skins there? It's whatever you want to call it. It's what you. It's when you want to look sexy for the hearts.

Yeah. Give me that look. You feel me. Y'all going to the rewards right? Like you go in there.

you just go watch it on string. like what's up the red carpet. Oh you want a red carpet? So what happens is on when I pull up to the water and I'm looking looking at you with that look. uh bro.

We'll see, We'll see, we'll see what happens. We'll do it. We'll do a stair off. Um all right.

what is it in one anyway? for that? another one. I I don't think I'm uh I Don't know. what the hell did you just say. what are you guys gonna wear when you got a new one Bro that I'm trying to figure out what pose I'm gonna do when I get that trophy in my hand.
This is like an item I Get right? All right? QT QT Make a participation trophy Please please. like like a pamphlet or something I need to post a Instagram picture? Wait, how the do I zoom in with this? Yeah! I I need to go get um I definitely need to go get some more drip. Okay, okay, hold on yo. I'm down when I come back.

If I might actually stay here for good though I might actually stay here. Get for good. It's so sick. if I wear a free Deo shirt.

Is that like bad looks? Nope. under myself. No no no no, that's calm. That's fine.

That's fine. I like it. Do you like eggs? but yeah, yeah. but I'm telling you I'm telling you, if you have his face on it, they might, they might not like it because it'd be like free Deo yeah that's good.

Yeah, that's fine. Are you gonna sell it you think will buy it? I mean they might bro chat. Why is Lsf trying to report our Reddit What do we do? What y'all do? Chill bro. probably Angie White racism.

Listen, listen, there are a lot of colors. There are a lot of groups that take advantage of situations like this where they just like will try to hammer on a narrative. and right now that narrative is that like all of the WL Community is anti-white racist. Okay, they can 100 percent bro.

We're nice people around here bro. we have good opinions. We think and it's not even here I think I think I Think it's like a more I think there's like a broader, more mainstream, concentrated amount of viewers with the BL because of where it was pulled from. That's it.

That's not. It's not because you guys are certain way or you guys do. So that's just what it is. It's whatever it was pulled from, That's it.

There's I don't I think that's That's the basis in the end of the the beginning of the end of the arguments. All right well boys, this was wonderful and productive. I Gotta go pet some pigs. What the does that mean going to a pig Cafe there's little teacup pigs.

Wait wait I have a question. Are you a pig on National TV To save your mother's life Dave Who's life? Your mother? Sure Your mother for a person in my life? Yeah the wait. what? no What the did you just say yo mom? What the you heard that oh my mom. my mom is going to the war.

she don't see you my you know that right Mama Rage and I'm a short of this clip I'll get it yeah I didn't mean to. it's not even I meant it I answered the prompt. now because I put it, it's a pig but it's um yeah oh yeah Black Mirror it's a Black Mirror episode. Yeah yeah, so are you.

Are you a pig to save your mother's life? I would do it for Universal Health bro you go live. After that you get like a million viewers I Would do it the same in my mom's life I would do it for Universal Health Care I would do it for many things I'll do it to beat you in this just chatting or where I am. You're out of your mind. Okay, a pig right now on live.
First of all, that's we're not. We're not doing it. We're not fetishizing. uh like that.

but I thought you were gonna do a dick reveal what happened to that. What? Me? him? No, not you. Felix Felix We've seen your monster. Okay, every time you try to do a yoga stream the the the Rizzler rattlesnake No I'm talking about I'm talking about rage.

He left the call. He's running away. He's running away from the call. He's running away from the truth.

All right. But anyway. I gotta go Uh. I'll see you back here.

we'll get some drip. Yeah, all right. Peace. That was nothing I Thought reasonable I mean not all of it.


By xQcOW

15 thoughts on “Brucedropemoff banned for anti-white racism heated debate with hasan yourrage”
  1. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Zachary says:

    Rage saying the root of the word "karen" is really important, but not even actually accurately knowing how it started is super funny to me

  2. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars BIG HEATHY says:

    I didn’t know X was in the conversation for like 5 minutes. I’m stupid

  3. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Aiden Linz says:

    BRO HOW ARE THEY RANTING ABOUT THIS 💤💤💤😴😴😴😴🛌🛌🛌🛌🛌🛌😴😴😴😴😴😴😴😴

  4. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Just Slav says:

    I recommend people who don't think what Bruce is promoting is bad to visit his discord. His people are wishing death to white men and women on a daily basis. It's scary. Him doing that stunt online only solidifies his views.

  5. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars KeepSeeker says:

    Chat what is the other "C word"?

  6. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Kweku says:

    wait Cracker is a bannable word to say?! 🤣

  7. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars DigitalHouse says:

    the jokes and words they use for white people is insane, if white people did the same to black people they will be cooked alive!!! racism is racism!

  8. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars OWVON says:

    X is right for this, you need to seperate the technicality of the word and it's lingual history to what intent people use the word for because it can support a behavior in a platform. Of course everything applies in the real world and every single factor is considered.

  9. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Daniel Grabowski says:

    its only one piece of the puzzle u guys give racists to much power that they dont fukin have

  10. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Nicolas says:

    double standards are crazy. its like people forget the race part of racism when a white person is taking the blunt of it smh

  11. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Smokers Package says:

    Somone needa wack hasan

  12. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars Kev says:

    Hasan is a brownoid Turk and his chat is filled with resentful Brownoids

  13. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars FearOC2 says:

    Lasan Labi

  14. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars James says:

    hasan is such a clown. he says that you give powers to the words then continues to say that cracker isnt as offensive as n word. and by his logic of "people in florida calling themselves cracker" then isnt that the same thing as white ppl taking the work back like black ppl did with n word?

  15. Avataaar/Circle Created with python_avatars n1uk says:

    I don't think anyone should take a person who's literal ideology killed ~100+ Million people in under 100 years seriously. On top of that he's a Turk, so he has literally NEXT TO ZERO say on if someone should be banned for Anti-White Racism or not, It's like if a white person were to say that this asian guy who got banned for saying a anti-black slur should be unbanned, first of all its of no say to you because its a ANTI-BLACK SLUR meaning it shouldn't matter to you, it should be decided by the Blacks. And this is a topic I wanted to talk about for a while now why is it that all the same groups that go around chanting equality and how we are all the same, are also the same groups to put down white people and try to say that we "haven't suffered" or "white people didn't go through what our people did!!!" first of all, every head tells a different story, but mainly what the fuck this is one of the biggest moments of irony in history.

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