I Don't know why you guys want me to get cooked on purpose like sometimes like some people I'm not let them get away with that I know why you guys are like so like adamant about like me getting cooked for free and letting get away with it I'm not doing saying but I'll say it is 33 months Can I get a welcome to No? Okay Xqcl Let's get it look confusing Amazon Al Evil Company with count. What's worse? What's worse? What's worse saying yo this? um let's say say yo this is Gamba This is a scam and people participating in it or say yo get a job here and then over and schaming your workers I mean it seems to me that one is a more deising practice than the other one to be honest. I'm going keep it a buck I I think they're both bad I I think I think they're both inherently bad I think I think all of it is always bad um I think the second one is much worse to be honest. but hey, what the do I know wait um okay, um okay is Amazon is evil company C Human rights violation and was it okay corrupt your audience Amazon Prime Subscribers to: Twitch VI Benefics uh twitch Amazon adver every audience you um except G categor a streamer um is just doing Noral gam outside category exactly Audience on Twitch and viewers are because Amazon shove down and throats no matter what evil company show guys are aform because you have to r on your viewers G Exactly through sub donations and everyone can agree is a good thing.

Yeah for sure to turn subs off yes I I keep the donations on content I broke some and was fixing it I had my I on because I'm not of content I think Don unfortunately are a necessary evil when it comes to content moderation I think people can agree that the TTS would use it was free. the quality ends up being a little bit higher by by default because it's corporate money I was like yeah it dude if it was like a like a company that exclusively is is uh you know doing dude that'd be so sick having a job bow man imagine Philip Morris is like they start a streaming service and then like they're doing Sig offs you know they're going Dart for Dart ex is the only person in the world to make $100 million and be mad about it dude I take I take it back I'm on more that that we're going dark for dark he y we can finally do the Pinko stream that will wants to do Pogo so much months holy ye right says invol the to farm CL and after she fell off Jesus um hi boys it's about the delusional paranoid to describe it like I guess train washed I don't know if it's I mean I know it's not a I don't I know it's not a contractual obligation right? Like obviously we joke about that, but it feels weird to see so many of your peers literally man like, talk about you in a way where they're so different now all of a sudden like okay, like yeah it's great I want you guys to make money but that's not going to change my my attitude. What he say about um, you know what? uh Stak's involvement with Kick is regardless of whether or not uh, Kick survives and and grows and thrives what you think? Cont: maybe dude I've heard you say this so many times. you preface this combo every time.

Wait, what? describe it I don't know how else to describe it like I guess I don't know if it's I mean I know it's not a I don't I know it's not a contractual obligation right? like obviously about that, but it it feels weird what to see so many of your peers literally like talk about you in a way where they're so different now all of a sudden like okay, like yeah it's great Okay okay I'm I'm confused when kick started everybody was trolling it and even though I had I had no involvement with train with the site I didn't give a about I had no sticks in it I I still didn't chill I didn't say I'm I'm more Lu fer guys these guys doing that. that's weird I would never do that I say I that people switched up including me that in that group of people that that switched up what switch happened What? Wait I want you guys to make money but that's not going to change my my attitude about um you know link poke St involvement with kick is regardless of whether or not. uh Kick survives and and grows and thrives. You thinki would give me a contract maybe? dude I've heard you say this so many times.

he prefaces com and say your name, then say it, then then say it otherwise. who is this about I mean on screen I See me and and am he says people switch up people okay didn't say who it is then who switched up cuz only like 4% went to kick so you can't be only be out of four or five like what? the fudge. What the fudge fudge I didn't do no switch up. is that even relevant? all of the conversation that is Chad show me other tweets I only saw one of them happened around kick and stake I that um my speculation Have you listened to me talk to ex about this with Pokey no I said this before I think you know this I don't usually watch debates because I think it's not super conducive to an understanding because most people go in there with like their side, their mind already made up and they just count points I prefer conversations like we're having a conversation I think is more conducive to like an actual understanding.

so I don't usually watch debates so I didn't tune in all of the conversation that is H that makes sense. Is it this or even reading my tweet he says generally impressive I can put into words everyone with Amazon ising consumers and workers at the same tweet say website is better for viewers because it doesn't have any ads convin you should tell umist, um blah blah blah huh? let me the actual tweet. My tweets I mentioned that um streaming contracts in general I'll be for the viewers yeah yeah what? no no yeah, this doesn't understand it. he me stream contracts as in um as in getting a REV from the corporate itself, not from the viewers by comparison so that you can lower down the amount of um guys support me type type Vibe You get it.

Ask the money? Yeah exactly. They could donation normalize them. You aren't actually even engaging with anything saying and instead are fighting ghosts words by my mouth as mention. okay yeah, switch back ball.

Okay, yep yep. yep. um Val rights for decades. Yep that evil and workers suffering and now somehow less meaningful and more than what sick does.

they're both bad. This is you choosing what you believe is lesser than evils which is fine but I don't get what your normal High Ground uh calling everyone else bad on the other platform which is Twitch moral my thing. Ouch! He says that kick screenshot is exactly what I meant kick which is gambling that's not horrible if the the goal is to create gambling adct and obviously it's unforgivable. Currently it's not doing that.

There's no ads, stake, calls to action or anything outside the gambling categories for reason. that's what I said Cam bling There's no viewers supposed toist since it's all isolated on Mon category like now. just like Twitch top categor is surprising since the first adopters wereing shers. that's what I said see like Foul Play for at the top same way three categories are always at top 20.

so unfortunately the categories on Twitch with there because the viewer numbers being high they High featur list I don't understand why you trying to make Executives and Lally one of the first people to call. that's what I said what the what? I said it that is what I said brother hell chicken I was very concise at what I said about that I was very concise I believe if think was evid on the site but right now it's like a change. the future of course category. also and gambling turning viewers into gambling addicts.

It's another friend in Twitch right now. Let's get category always to yes exactly. It's always ading gambling services, but Twitch streamers that aren't in that category are sending viewers to convert them gambling. F Twitch is bread and butter on Amazon Serv signups.

So Twitch is currently feeling viewers. Yeah, boom Boom Vilifying every streamer. That's what I said. Vilifying Every streamer goes with the kick is just a little weird when Twitch is marke not only backed by it, but also is a funnel for it.

Which one is a black on white doing and the other one is doing because you wanted to with your dumbass projection and speculation that isn't proven in any way. There's no branding of any kind of website or anything that points to it. Nothing compared to Twitch Amazon, Prime and other that leads right to the product. Holy.

It's almost like there's a higher link. It's almost like there's a higher stronger link between between Twitch and Amazon in their services, then stake or or kick and to to stake. Does that make sense? The link is stronger. There, it is a stronger link quite a little.

It is quite little stronger. It is a stronger link. Um, what? You have to give credit where credit is due. You have to give credit where credit is due.

28 How expensive the services to run and the money lost them to separate entirely. You have to. You absolutely have to in debate. You will never win if you don't at least acknowledge the same way.

I acknowledged that Hassan didn't breach his own beliefs that I don't really agree with when talking about contracts I Admitted that I took a step down and said you know what, dude. out of all the bad things we're going to say today, one thing I I I can agree with with with is that he does that and I give him a point there. When do people give me any points? ever? Even when I'm right nobody because they're better than that because because they're always higher better. it's called high roading.

It doesn't matter how wrong you are, you're on the high road because of what. Because of morals and ethics and vague dumb posting that makes you look higher. it is demo mode. demo.

How is that? what? Bism 33 months X QC Feels okay. Less than three you go the word limit to say they can't tell the difference between between a site. it's only maches where people buy anywhere on Kick I mean that's that's just stupid that that's just stupid based on who's live in a day like like dude dude, dude, dude dud. I could go live with Train and all the other boys and we could all do slots for a day on another website.

and we could push slots at the top one category on Twitch for weeks on end without ever stopping. Does that mean that Twitch is different? Should we make about about the site and its Endeavors and its products? Absolutely not. because we're just individuals the same way that the since de side is small or smaller one big individual show as this guy push the category way up and looks like it's a big a bigger ratio than it actually is and that's just the way it is. And when you make arguments like this, you look like a assap except that you don't when you have the moral highend of of saying Gamba equals win which everybody will get behind.

so you get free cookie points 20 Look how many likes 8K 7.4k likes on some dumb argument that is disproven within an instant. Within an instant it's stupid. Lost the argument there. It's just bad dumb.

Yeah, it's just stupid I think shooting contracts are better for your audience. Where's me coming from? Wait from employees getting squeezed at the sweat shop I Don't get it huh? Yeah, quite literally yeah lit. The money comes from the sweat shop squeezing and the people that work at the company like what the oh he means for for for kick oh um yeah from P company like everybody else like what the like What bro I thought this guy was actually like I'm going be hon with you I'm going be hon with you I thought this guy was smart enough at least to make tweets that aren't this botom of the barrel I Kind of feel sad now I Feel like people have been arguing with this guy and he's I think he's just not very smart I feel I feel like he's he's he's pretty stupid. These are these are arguments that can be proved wrong.

like instantly. You don't even have to do you three clicks and you can disprove this. It's just stupid. Well I hate to attack the messenger, but the message is stupid.

Uh, this guy's stupid. This guy's brain dead. The reason Charlie sounds reasonable and you do not is because you can't piece two words together. medium bro.

You keep confusing everyone with your literally opposite takes and lumping together different things. And yet I'm still correct. People are flipping because of a public opinion swap. Nothing else, nothing else but the fact that they will get backed by the public or Not by the public them I don't It's kind of crazy how Charlie has the same exact things to say as you considering he didn't even watch the conversation between you Hassan and Pokey Lau that's what I said what happens next in terms of putting together, that's what I said.

that's what I said. Wow. Holy. I Really care about this right? That's what.

There is no company that you can work for that is going. No blood on their hands. but there is a difference. Um what? I What I think a lot of people see is uh the difference between like the output versus the way that the uh the the like.

The way that Amazon is bad. Here comes a crazy ass take I think it's almost equivalent or not as bad right to have Gamba Shin say guys, this is G This is my Gamba chat if you come with. If you come with $1 here right you're you're you're going to leave. You're going to leave with 98 cents.

Okay literally if if I if you were, if you were to play the roulette right, you have a 48 5% chance of winning right? I Tell you if you play my roulette over time you will lose. Okay, you will lose. Gambling is losing it. Gambling is losing right? So saying yo guys, if you go over here you're going to lose money people to lose moneyy to that right compared compared to human rights violation.

Like they said like in the Absolute LIF Grinder Sweatshop like behavior of Twitch's head company or parent company. okay I I think I think in in this in this example the oh that is blood money yeah like the one over here isn't the isn't the same or worse like what anti-un absolute employee squeeze of people who just want to make a living and go to work to try to make ends meet. compared to people who are going to the spot that says you're going to get scammed and then get scammed. Holy what the how am I sounding crazy here? I'm quite right about this one is thece and and one is but not deceiving.

If you get deceived by the roulette thinking you have the odds you're a if you look at if you look at it at a stat and it says you will win less than half the time you say oh wow I'm about to win boys I'm about what is your problem? What is your pro? You can be entertained the that you might win sometimes right? But don't listen. Have deluded it you will lose 100% So we always said that I used to do it. you will lose quite literally. Anyway, you solve addiction oh my.

God ah okay I I can't let's keep going yo X I Love you so much I Just moved into my first apartment. so so by by your standard it's it's better to offer somebody a job. right? somebody a job and then absolutely crush them yoink them and treat them like dog and them sweat shop like conditions right that every criticizes other countries for doing some that that's better to squeeze them to a crisp and drive them to the edge of the cliff. Oh yeah, it's got to be.

It's got to be. That's got to be better. Yippe. It's just trash dude.

That's just how it is like people realizing that the world sucks. Wow Big! What an insane realization the world is. It's that's insane. Yipp! Yipp is very different than the way stake is bad.

Does that make sense I think Amazon is hyper exploitative. but ultimately their product or their service that they're providing is a useful one that could still exist in an ethical manner whereas unregulated crypto gambling is not. uh, like if it was regulated if it was a physical space and the barriers of so justifying the human squeeze. Because so The end justifies the means is what you're saying.

So we're saying that is that since they could still somehow fix that, then the product justifies the human squeeze. then entry existed. I Still would have issues with this Vice being promoted obviously, but it would be It would make me uh at ease a little bit because of of uh, you know, because of how little you could get like 12y olds to sign out with their mommy's credit card to go and and gamble. Yeah, those wacky little digits.

what? What about? What about consumerism and like addiction to shopping and like that? I mean I don't want not obuse I I don't want to be? What about ISM That's kind of like what about ISM But I mean brother, brother. when I go to Amazon to spend 10 bucks I spend 200 a Maybe it's because I'm rich I'm stupid I'm out to touch my bad on the back and and I totally understand that for sure it's just as it currently stands like. while the service Amazon provides is obviously far less harmful than the service Stake provides, it is still a service that is provided on the backs of this hyp, exploitative industry. So 100% yeah.

Like I said 100% Mo Saying do feel Um What Mo is saying does feel like a whataboutism. We're not supporting the bad person on Twitch We're never going to be a platform that's 100% perfect. Who is we? Who the is we, brother, brother yo. Dip the end of your broom into the water and start mopping the floor.

Who the is you? You're janitor Andy thinks he's on the team. What? like I Don't think that's what's been driving me kind of a little wacky today. Like we're not dis agreeing on core components here. it's just labeling people that are bro.

this guy who's we, there is no we. Jes Jesus They're also doing morally ethically things or questionable things as evil or bad. I Just there is no your half. There is only my all of it.

Think it makes any sense coming from a platform like Twitch And that's just kind of the core of the whole No. I I Think it's because I think it's because people understandably have uh, issues with crypto gambling and that's why they're getting upset at what they perceive is going to happen. What they perceive is going to happen with Stake because you and I both understand that like Stak's main purpose for Kick is not to build like this completely separate institution that is somehow going to be profitable in and of itself. see I I Don't like that me and you agree on this and that.

Have they agreed previously about that? That seems like I I don't think I don't think I don't think I don't think Charlie said that I I Do not think that he said that when Microsoft failed to do so and Amazon uh, seemingly is failing to do so even though they have billions, multiple billions of dollars. if somebody did a product and they failed it, you should never go into it. Chat: Let me let me tell something. Chat if your neighbor okay has more money and made a business and he failed, Trust me, you will fail.

If you do a company similar, you will fail 100% because your neighbor failed and you had more money. So clearly you're going to fail too. I Mean obviously what An infrastructure spending already designed to be able to do this web service? uh, live web hosting Services If they're not able to make it happen, it's not about the money, it's about making a good product. The reason why Mixer failed isn't the money or some headache.

It's because the was dog. The site didn't work. it looked garbage. It looked like a spaceship.

The check could suck my balls and so it's YouTube That's why it failed. It was no matter how much you pump a product, it's a product kick is getting there. It's getting better by the day. and I won't take any other answer than that 42 month getting better by the date and people have noticed that people have noticed and you know it And the bit rate is literally better.

The delay is actually better. The core components of the broadcast to you are better. The chat isn't as good. it's getting there and since I've joined it has gone there and we're getting there.

Is he talking Why the Nails Would it fail? If there's possibility that the product becomes better? It seems like this com comes out of insecurity and out of a possible jealousy. The product might actually end up better. There's a chance even Slim in your that the actual experience become better because it's content, creator driven with feedback compared to Amazon backed bureaucracy changes that makes things hard to fix and they're scared of it and they know that it's possible. And the only reason why they're all talking is that they've just realized that holy it might actually work And that scares them.

Yep, because if this fails and they pull the plug, all they will have is their moral and ethics in their hands and nothing else and not a platform to brag about it anymore. Empty hands, morals And that's good. That should be enough for you. Morals and ethics should be what you care about, right? Not what it comes with.

but it seems like these guys they want to get, they want to dip their bread into the sauce and they want also eat it and there's a chance they might not be able to do that if that up and that scares them. They are afraid and I'm not to say oh dude, they're jealous because they're broke I'm not going to do that actually. I Will Yeah, they they are scared because they might become broke. Imagine caring about this whole drama.

Imagine being tempted to gamble and lose your life saving. He looks like he being hooked by this dumb quarrel. Take a walk, drink some water, eat bre in the any brothers in chat of traffic here at best.