Everybody. Wait, what's up with it with the audio? 50-montharus on a stack lad. Thank you for the content and amazing streams. Much love Always Qcl Big Wow.

less than three. Also, chat. Listen there there's um, there's a world out there. Okay I'm not talking about this you guys, but it is before anybody.

You guys before I even watches on another game of hypocrisy. A lot of people online seem to think right that things are are, um, solidified and rigid. If you see the world that way, you're gonna run into a lot of problems. Uh, I've grown up and you grow as a person.

Things when you are somebody who's in a dumb yeah, a lot of times what happens is that Zoo grow, improve, find new data, find new information. You go out of ignorance. You make new conclusions. You get you, You change, You change perspective.

Sometimes you have a take and and a week later you know what. You have a new take because that's something you didn't know. You changed your ticket their day. You know what happened I had to take it.

You know what? I changed it am I Hypocrite Absolutely not I'm not a hypocrite I changed my take I generally did it I said I didn't know I got caught up with it and now I I I I look at it I say my take was bad and I'm I changed my take I change it I'll damage my hypocrite I want you to take a second. Who the are you set the T-shirt to dark mode which means it's time to go Full Throttle Into the Danger Zone No More Granny Shifting: We're gonna talk about a controversial topic. simply advertisements on Twitch This is actually a war that I've been drafted into and tossed into the front line. so I've been catching fire and getting called out, labeled a hypocrite and morally flexible when it comes to things.

my friends do that I call others out for so I Kind of want to talk about this entire subject here because I feel that it's just a load of dirty Barnacles To call me hypocritical when it comes to fansly advertisements, so allow me to show you to your table and deliver your entree of drama that you've ordered. So the situation. in a nutshell. A couple weeks ago, there was the Streamer Awards that happened on Twitch I was unable to attend them in person so I received permission from QT Cinderella to watch party them.

This was a massive event that QT Cinderella put together and one of the advertisers for it. One of the sponsors was Fansley. so during the stream a fancy advertisement popped up and this was my reaction to it. A free trial of your favorite streamers are already creating adult content on Fansley.

Fansley has a whole algorithm dedicated featuring new content and creators through the fancy for you feature Swipe and Discover. Today a very tame giggle as if someone came up and playfully tickled me for a moment and people were upset because I didn't start spitting and taking up arms about how disgusting it was that Fansley was being advertised on this broadcast here. Reason being is because prior I had made a video talking about a couple of things. One of them was Aiden Ross when he showed porn to his audience, my statement was that Aiden Ross went on PornHub in front of his audience which a lot of them are kids on the younger side of things.

So I said that was weird. That was a weird thing to do. So when I giggled during the fans lease segment, it was used as a Smoking Gun to call out and attack me for being a hypocrite because it's the same principle Fansley was just shown on stream to an audio against that undoubtedly had kids watching. How is that any different than Aiden Ross going on PornHub Charlie is a hypocrite he called it out for Aiden Ross but doesn't do it when it's his friend.

QT Cinderella When I first heard this argument, I thought it was just a bunch of fish paste I thought it was being used satirically because it didn't even compute that people were trying to compare these two things going on. an actual legitimate PornHub out of nowhere in front of your audience and just having porn real porn being played versus an advertisement which does lead to porn. but the advertisement itself has more clothes on than a lot of things that are already freely broadcast on Twitch that are easily accessible. I Didn't think these two things deserve to be on the same playing field, but that's where I was wrong clearly today.

I have to disagree with both of his takes that asked them what really hold up, hold up hello I didn't hear them I heard a mistake. It's not what it says okay, watch it, then don't no more granny shifting. We're gonna talk about a controversial topic fansley advertisements on: Twitch This is actually a war that I've been drafted into and tossed into the front line. so I've been catching fire and getting called out, labeled a hypocrite and morally flexible when it comes to things my friends do that college out for.

I Don't want to talk about this entire subject here because I feel that it's just a load of dirty. Barnacles To call me hypocritical when it comes to fancy advertisements, so allow me to show you to your table and deliver your entree of drama that you orders. So the situation in that show. A couple weeks ago, there was the Streamer awards that happened on Twitch I was unable to attend them in person so I received permission from QT Cinderella to watch them.

This is a massive event that QT Cinderella put together and one of the advertisers for one of the sponsors was fancy so during the stream they fancy Advertiser popped up and this was my reaction to it when they say adult content. So wait, the mo brother I knew they were what there was and then no, there was way more adult content. But I know they just flat out say that it's meant for that. Well now I know even more, that's even.

that's that's even that bro. No I can just triple down and I take that note. No no, no double down on my new take came up completely tickled me for a moment and people were upset because I didn't start spitting and taking up arms about how disgusting it was that fancy was being advertised on this broadcast here. Reason being is because prior I had made a video talking about a couple of things.

One of them was in Ross when he showed porn to his audience. My statement was that in Ross went on PornHub in front of his audience which a lot of them are kids on the younger side things. So I thought that was weird. That was a weird thing to do.

So when I giggled during the fansley segments, it was used at a Smoking Gun to call out and attack me for being a hypocrite because it's the same principle. Fansley was shown on stream to an audience that undoubtedly had kids watching. How was that any different than Aidan Ross going on PornHub Charlie is a hypocrite he called it out for Aidan Ross but doesn't do it when it's his friend QT Cinderella When I first heard this argument I thought it was just a bunch of fish paste I Thought it was being used satirically because it didn't even confuse that people trying to compare these two things going on an actual legitimate PornHub This is bad point. It's very important at this point.

Whoa. Now we're into the chat. Now we're getting to semantics and we're going to take uh at like equivalence uh, value of things. So there's a very because it's the same principle.

Fansley was just shown on stream to an audience that undoubtedly had kids watching. How is that any different than Aiden Ross Going on PornHub Charlie is a hypocrite. he called it out for Aiden Ross but doesn't do it when it's his friend QT Cinderella When I first heard this argument I thought it was just a bunch of fish paste I thought it was being used satirically because it didn't even compute that people were trying to compare these two things going on. an actual legitimate PornHub Out of nowhere in front of your audience and just having porn Real porn being played versus an advertisement which does lead to porn, but the advertisement itself has more clothes on than a lot of things that are already freely broadcast on Twitch that are easily accessible.

I Didn't think these two things deserve to be on the same playing field, but that's where I was wrong I Clearly failed the captcha here and was labeled a bot because a lot of people do view these is in the same category in the same wheelhouse. A YouTuber named Mu Kitty made a whole video on it talking about Twitch streamers and their hypocrisy. A video that I make an appearance in towards the end and it's exactly what I just talked about where I said it was weird when Aiden Ross pulled up Pornhub but I laughed when Fansley was a sponsor of the streamer Awards and not long after her video Scott Schaefer made content covering the same topic where once again The Hunger Games Mockingjay Part 1 Superstar Charles White comes into the frame once again with another Banger Cameo and the argument is the same. Charlie called it out when Aiden Ross pulled up real porn but didn't call it out when QT Cinderella advertised porn and he did it because she's his friend.

thus he is a hypocrite and on stream I Talked about this last night and I'll go ahead and get this out of the way right away. All right. I'm gonna be that guy and ruin the entire content. Why? Why is promoting gambling so ashamed My people promote pornography during that stream and in the exact same video Mu Kitty has posted on one of her channels I outright say both are bad.

It's pretty clear from reading her comments, not like her personal comments, but like the audience comments that the majority of the people didn't even watch the full statement which isn't her fault and I even don't blame the audience because right now, the human race is being plagued by brain rot parasite short form content which has ruined the attention span of people. So I don't necessarily find it shocking that they didn't watch all 10 minutes of what I was saying. But in not the same world of problems, the fabric of society itself is falling apart because of these. this type of content, the fabric itself of society I Hope you know that Albinism In that clip I outright say both can be bad, but they are not the same to me.

thus: I disagree that it's hypocritical that I made statements about Aiden Ross and the way people see each other, meet each other, date, have sex, all the all the way. all these things. pornography is disintegrating it. nah and a society is in a different playing field and it is constantly eroding and being different because of these things.

I'm bro bro. I Know that it is like that. I'm not being hypocritical or being weird I'm telling you, you have to be on the side that it's all bad or it's all fine. They didn't choose anything like a ass doesn't have anybody.

Yep, I think it's complete dog I Think social means it's all dog and I partake in every inch of every one of these things. and I consume partner like some dude eating glizzies I Don't give. no, not my responsibility, not my responsibility. sorry porn thing being really weird and I didn't make the exact same statements for QT Cinderella's Fansley sponsor I'll go ahead and prove that it's there right now real quick before getting into why I Think they're so different, but ultimately, both are not a great thing to be advertising to an audience that is undoubtedly going to have children watching of course, advertising Fansley Only fans or anything in front of an audience that has younger children on it.

It's always going to be not a great decision. It's one of those things. Yeah, now let's make like an egg and hard-boil this subject real quick. So the difference between Aiden Ross pulling up Pornhub and cutie Cinderella Bringing up a Fansley sponsor is very clear.

right off Rip: If if all of you in the classroom right now have your thinking caps on, you'll notice a huge difference. I Was able to play the entire Fansley ad as it aired because they are all cloaked. you are not getting immediate nudity or pornographic content. It is an advertisement for pornographic content going to the website, Yes, But unlike Aiden Ross's moments with real PornHub just being their actual full-blown porn, you got tits.

Everything all right there. immediately. That is not what you got with the QT Cinderella Fansley sponsorship. Thus, immediately, those two are already different.

Showing the porn to an unsuspecting audience out of nowhere is a lot worse than advertising a service that has porn on it and that's something. Scott Shaffer Does chap? he does have a plan? Yeah. Lastly, it's entirely correct them. I Think there's a decent um point we made? Okay, that that direct, direct and forced impact is different, right? and then the promotion by proxy to something elsewhere with certain barriers to get there.

there is there's Nuance there. Nothing Anybody is right or wrong. I mean there's there's a consider severe degrees of nuance. as touched on in his video, his is more of a deeper look at the subject and you kitties is more memeing with it.

I Always thought her content was supposed to be silly and over-the-top trolling, but she does seem genuinely upset at me. and I imagine it's because of my statements. and I also did say I'm not the biggest fan of the way she edits her content I called it Zoomer editing which sounds mean-spirited when I really didn't mean it to be. She edits her videos like very chaotic on purpose where it's a lot of sound effects you know, like a gong being hit pretty often or like really loud blasting music pretty often.

and that's just never been my cup of tea. but I never meant it as an insult on her honor. It's just not something that I'm yeah, this is a fan of the same way that she does something to insulting. It's just the way it's edited.

It's like this guy did that right there and looked at his beard. Look at it now. then we're doing this thing. Did you know that Charlie Boom like oh my God yo I didn't mean it to be mean and I apologize that it may have come across.

But the whole point of me mentioning this right now is I Do want to say that Scott Shaffer did also talk about the difference between playing porn versus advertising the fansley. He did touch on that last night I made the comparison that the fansley ad actually had more clothing on the people in it than what you would already find on Twitch right now in the hot tubs category where it is bikinis, this is where Boom I love Charlie But this is what he falls down. This is where he falls flat on his face because because if he understands the Nuance between Aiden and cutie, then he understands the nuance between Twitch and fansley. Except he spins up here and he he goes backwards and says that oh, it's kind of the same thing.

No, it's not. If you acknowledge the existence of nuance, you understand the Nuance Here you do you do using the fansley? He did touch on that last night I made the comparison that the fansley ad actually had more clothing on the people in it than what you would already find on Twitch right now in the hot tubs category where it is bikinis and very very revealing clothing and that is a category that Twitch itself advertises. If you go to Twitch when you're not logged in, a lot of the recommended channels are hot tub streams, so Twitch itself does pedal content that is clearly sexually charged I'm going to fire back at him his argument that he pushed earlier you were able so you were able to watch the contenter that Judy put out right on Twitter but you will not be able to watch the content that Aiden put out them. so as is his argument applies here again on: Twitch The content in in the hardware category is we have a 2s on on this category.

If you were, if you were to put the content on from fansley that they push you put it on Twitch then it would not be twos friendly guys his arguments apply. His best argument is also the best argument against himself in both in both ways. My point with this statement was to draw the immediate comparison that this Fansley advertisement wasn't immediately exposing young viewers to sexually explicit material and it's even more easily accessible for them on Twitch already by just going to the category right next to the just chatting one. That was the whole point of that.

That's something Xqc didn't quite understand. calling me wrong, saying that there's not a bleached butthole right away or something on hot tubs category. Thus, Checkmate hits me with the scholars mate. It is a Checkmate though.

Ah, he read them, He went there all right. I'm moving in Florida That wasn't my point. My point was the ad itself didn't contain any explicit imagery or anything highly sexual. at least nothing that was worse than what is already currently being advertised on Twitch in that category.

And when you go to Fans lead, there is still not immediately ass and titties in your face right away. Thus, I Didn't think by scanning the QR code, people would immediately just be blasted with porn all over the place like Charles Xavier jacking into Cerebro. So I viewed the advertisement very differently than a lot of people because even when you scan the QR code, you still don't immediately get porn. There's already a lot of degrees of separation and a lot of obstacles to go through as opposed.

Yeah, but it's a call to action to do it. I Think this is also the greatest defensive. There's a call to action to do it though. and now that we're on the toilet, there is a call to action to use the QR code that is called a push or a pull.

Okay, just Van Puento. Okay one, let me people talk about them legally. Here's a good parallel to have this on that point. then legally right if I say these people, Um, well.

I'm not going to show them out, my throat's still swollen. Okay, here's a good parallel. Okay, morally. but also legally when you have an audience of people, right, There is a severe difference between Sanya Oh, I'm doing this and oh, today we're doing that.

And oh, that's weird. Let's hear that and saying your chat. Go do this. And here's here's a way that it displays them in some some legal systems.

But you can't go around and make call to Action for violence. That's a crime, right? You're allowed to talk about like violence and and speaking certain ways and do certain behaviors right. It's not a crime you can't say yo. Go this guy up.

You can't do that. That is a call to Action to violence the same way. the same way that sponsors. When you sign deals as a swimmer, as an influencer, they're always safe.

Okay, today you're doing. you're doing a call to action. Nil. Always.

Most of the time they'll say at least twice. Make a call to action. Which means make the people go click on something. yeah, or go buy a product, right? That's what it's a call to action.

I Think in this scenario right? What we're talking about is that even though there are barriers and I get that, if there's still a call to action when interact to interact with adult products, right? that's it. And now that I run this up again, your because throughout all the Gamba right there has been zero call to action and it's not on the opposite that has been call to actions of the opposite you you absolute zero head, zero responsibility off low blame Andy Of the modern times you opposed to Aiden Ross which just pulled up porn as a jump scare during stream right? It to me still is very different. I Also was under the assumption that fans Lee was only accessible to 18 plus after you verified your age I don't use the platform I thought you had to verify you were 18 plus in order to even get to the pornographic content. Thus I thought it was even harder for children to have got porn out of that advertisement if they weren't of age.

Not Only would they have had to leave the platform to get it. They would then have to verify their age and make an account for it. I Okay so here's here's another little bit of a curtain. I Got argument there unless okay, it's very important and I've been that cutie had the 18 plus tag on the stream that they were streaming it right? and if they didn't that's a problem that is A did they have or not the 18 tag when going to Cutie's stream on that day then that is a massive problem.

Just you want to talk about barriers right? I will not be a hypocrite I'm not I was gonna call myself out okay because if I'm the one who Advocates and says yo guys, there's a barrier against this on this side or whatever right? If there is a possible barrier that they can add on on the platform and they didn't add it for things that do have a barrier, that's a fun that is such a problem, that is a problem. Yep. I took it down Ability: um sorry about that when we did. uh, fansley.

uh when when juice was sponsored and I knew that after episode one right? it it was not 80 plus maybe it was actually I don't know, maybe it wasn't I genuinely did that. not the time and I should have done my research I should have done my research at the time and I didn't I genuinely and I try to prove that and other times I generally didn't know and if it was damage the damage caused, well I'm sorry about that but that is not that is that was never the question that well I can do that wrong because I didn't know I I maybe said everybody that was an Agilent about that because my interaction with the product this is a report tell me about yourself. Reports are like that's fine, you're dumb right now over there is that we had to post normal content between like conversations of us and it was paywalled content I thought they were like I couldn't understand it. What? what? Why was there a massive competitor? Only fans but only friends exists? Why? I Thought it was like it was like a patreon about people and yes there will be of course some people that have a nudity I know it was a mentality and it was meant for nudity.

like a what do you thought about I thought there was a lot of steps to it making it very difficult for them I did not get paid Millions I got paid zero dollars I've never seen a contractor an exchange of an exchange an exchange of of of device of any sort of monetary value I have never got a singular dollar from any of those monsters I know what he is on the bathtub. Zero dollars guys up! If I had received money from them I would be committing a um FTC violation live on air and I would be I I would be subjected to a crime I didn't get a single dollar from these sponsors zero and never will. But according to some research now, it actually seems like Fansley is exciting as a SSC is extremely easily accessible for anyone of any age. There's not a whole lot of security to it based on the things I've read which is knowledge I didn't have last night so I made the comparison that the Fansley advertisement remind me of all the strip club Billboards that are spaced around all of the major interstates anytime.

I go up north to Pennsylvania there is hundreds of strip clubs being advertised and on those advertisements there are women in bikinis and very very, uh, revealing lingerie. So they tell you exactly where to go for them. Chat about my mom some shoes I Love her. she's very happy.

she says yeah I apologize I Sent this to the mail. My mom said she's a big garnish. It's always like gardening. She has a lot of flowers at home.

She has flowers everywhere everywhere I I got it automatically because look, it has like little flowers on it. little flowers, little branches, stuff like that little leaves and these ones. She said this is one of the ones that are more uh, light. so these ones that are like gray and white look look yeah, it's Gotta chill she already had.

um um, chat. it's not Celine but it's like it's like a it's like a name of a brand but this is like a girl's name. It's not. uh, give me give me a woman's names Brandon not Chanel it's something else.

uh uh. Chloe I bought my mom. um, these ones these ones and they're see through. like you know, like kind of looking like can I see through whatever.

just kind of cool. he gives it like some depth. that guy cool, uh, whatever for the strip club. well when you're drunk I gotta replay this part or whatever.

I'm scared during stream, right? It to me still is very different. I Also was under the assumption that Fansley was only accessible to 18 plus after you verified your age I Don't use the platform I Thought you had to verify you were 18 plus in order to even get to the pornographic content. Thus I thought it was even harder for children to have got porn out of that advertisement if they weren't of age. Not Only would they have had to leave the platform to get it, they would then have to verify their age and make an account for it.

I Thought there was a lot of steps to it, making it very difficult for them, but according to some research now it actually seems like Fansley is. Oh guys, like I said I Think the Kryptonite of this argument is the fact that there is a barrier on Twitch that's 18 plus a it was not utilized I think that's a problem I'm not working in the bus I Don't I I Want people to go hate their way, right? because I'm sure they're gonna have things about this and they're saying they're doing expansions. Whatever. Again, that's what I've been in the bus, but I think there's still a level of accountability that there's if there is a barrier to put in and you're not using it.

Well, I mean extremely easily accessible for anyone of any age. There's not a whole lot of security to it based on the things I've read which is knowledge I didn't have last night. so I made the comparison that the Fansley advertisement remind me of all the strip club Billboards that are spaced around all of the major interstates anytime. I Go up north of Pennsylvania there is hundreds of strip clubs being advertised.

and on those advertisements there are women in bikinis and very, very, uh, revealing lingerie and they tell you exactly where to go. for the strip club people. they don't have to live on internet and will not agree with the stake it. This is a this is a true take I said about about national television and ads for casinos or whatever right? People won't hear it people.

Are you getting mad about this? even though that is the society we live in. Sorry. Well, when you're driving through, there's a good chance a lot of those cars are going to have kids in it and see those advertisements. So I compared Fansley to a strip club billboard because in principle, if Fansley worked the way I thought it did where you had to be 18 years or older to enter.

It's kind of like a strip club advertisement because a kid could. Alcohol ads are the same problem. but you know what's great about this video chat that these takes I predicted them years ago with the camera shift because I got to understand how that works and I I can't be hypocrite about some of this but this that I can double down hold on I was right all along and still Emma because now that we're talking about this, what about alcohol? What about cigarettes? huh? Yep, and you can see those damn straight. What about photography? Absolutely Boom.

Could see that but still couldn't access the content because the strip club would obviously turn turn them away ideally assuming you're not going to some kind of shady, corrupt strip club. and I thought Fansley was the same way. but apparently that's not the case so that comparison doesn't work anymore. and I reckon.

Yep. Sports Gambling ads shown on TV But dude, but dude, this is at the end of the ad they say addiction so clearly I mean they they put a safeguard guys. they put a SIM card because they said at the end they said recognize that now and I also made the comparison to the old GoDaddy commercials which were highly sexualized content that was broadcast during like Super Bowl during sporting events where it was things like a girl with huge Honkers uh you know her straps like breaking off and like she's in a courtroom and like judges going and then like she's trying to say something on the other straps like wiggling and then it's like right when it breaks off and about to reveal the the giant uh milkers it says go to Godaddy.com to finish it and I wasn't really making a big point out of that I Just wanted to point out that man, it really does feel like the early 2000s again with a lot of the internet arguments we get into these days is it's we've had for years. History really does kind of repeat itself because I do still think that's a pretty fair comparison that's fundamentally like the same thing.

The argument back then was think of the children. they were watching this Sport and then all of a sudden, uh, sexual content advertisement so that that's all I was really saying with that one. But yeah, in closing, I Feel like there is no, you say this doesn't count because of the intended audience I Think the point makes a lot of sense during the NFL and a target audience is people that watch sports. Well children, bro, Bro, they're very good about using about their sponsors and like that, right bro.

All the kids watch. Did they watch football? Play football? They watch football. They watch baseball right? If you're a kid, you're gonna watch the Super Bowl You will, right? And the intended audience is included. It's also for children.

it is meant for them. literally. their ads. They're dangerous for children.

Well, I mean I mean it'd be cool to think you know you lost my computer since you've been pausing I don't even up yours I I Dude, it wasn't it. Imagine if if I would just did ticks and just the things for viewers I'd be I'd be hollow inside brother. No real good faith argument to be made that I'm hypocritical because I called Aiden Ross pulling up Pornhub weird and didn't immediately start calling out how weird it was for fansley to be. Well, I'm inside of it just because of girls.

Otherwise I feel like the two aren't really comparable. Blasting porn real porn immediately to your audience, out of nowhere, no warning, and right in their face. Just on stream is completely different than an advertisement to a platform which does have porn, but a lot of things that they'd have to do in order to access it. Granted I've now learned that it's easier than I thought it was.

I Still think the two are drastically different. so I still just don't think it's hypocritical. As I've said, neither one of them is great I don't think either one of them is an amazing thing to do. but also I think people that comment on YouTube have severe amounts of black one side of the brains for people that post YouTube comments um, they cannot think or rub themselves together and that's just how it is.

And I I think the things that happen with these people is that um I'm I'm in this instance but neither one of them is great I don't think either one of them is an amazing thing to do, but they are just not the same and it's really silly to pretend that they are. They are very different and uh, yeah, uh, that's about it. Really just wanted to talk about it. Okay I'll come in this corner.

Don't agree with them I don't agree with them at all I want you to take no, not you again I said you already I Said nobody Charlie Never mentioned parent responsibility to monitor their kids internet usage. Do you still think parents are responsible? Just curious It's Kind of a common answer: Parents are always responsible for everything that happens with their children. Otherwise, yeah, absolutely 100. It's why I Think bring back good parenting.

Why? Because a a child isn't Um, here's your restarted execution take of the day yo chat. I Am not hip A child okay, cannot make decisions for themselves. They actually cannot again. legally and morally.

children are not equipped with enough information about the world, enough mental stability and mental development to make choices. they just can't Literally I Mean to some degree, right? That's what they have. We call legally a parent Guardian right? And they oversee their decisions and their actions. That's kind of how it goes, right? So when your child loses online and does dumb on devices, you bought them and you pay for in the house, you paid for with your supervision and they go wild.

sorry man, you should. You should probably take a accountability. you are a parent made better restrictions, use better apps and better safeguards. Otherwise you are for next time.

Buy a condom or put the on some. um anti uh pregnancy? a you absolutely without you sup hey hey what's the Sit rep? Lay it on me Oh I Want any video? I Want a video? I I do some stuff. They do some stuff. uh that I gathered yo I'm gonna make it faster than last time because the points are much sharper and much I want you.

oh this yeah always goes on my screen. Um yeah. I I'm a visual person right? I'm the visual Well I said. Checkmate Also sex movies good one by the way.

uh um, it's like it's like I I saw two things. One that's like moving around the one that locks it in place. that's why that's a one. two and it's over.

it's gonna Checkmate but I couldn't explain properly. the way I see it. This isn't drama. You want to realize that the differences between adults and opinions is not drama.

It's strong because your dad is a truck Lord and is okay I'm not gonna get there anyway. Uh yo ah your point is. individual app in your video. Um yeah.

okay. so I think there's so much. People don't understand how much there's unpacking this. There's a lot of components in this.

There's a lot of components Okay, yeah, very nuanced. very nuanced. A lot of topics like things like safeguards. things like uh, and the reason why I'm more involved in this video either Jamba Shooter I became like a fine header I can't I understand it isn't ready for the truth sometimes I get a lot of these.

Concepts Now here's it is one of them. So I think the two mistakes that I think there was a mistake about one is about safeguards. um, and the other one was about um Nuance in Charles Again, it was nuance. in um I'm printing my answer in my head.

you're all good. It's funny all up. I'll wait on the fax machine, no worries. Yeah, yeah.

I I I'm I'm I'm I'm come on because I said it and I forgot what I was wondering about this and I don't watch the entire video again just to begin to make a point or at the start. Um, um yeah, yeah, yeah yeah. uh. Nuance in nudity and content, right? Okay, Okay, so she's okay.

so I'll go I'll go to the main points I'll remove this. So then so then you you bring up in the video at one point that um, oh, like people are naked. Oh no, you say at one point you say that you understand that Aiden right? So Aiden she um, she showed porn or something like that, right? Or yeah, he went, He went on. PornHub Just yeah.

Well, I mean the clips are all there I mean about that I didn't want you to watch. Okay, but I get back. Okay I get the point though. um right? yep and then uh, um, right.

And then in, um, the other instance, oh man. I'm trying to get lost here. But yeah, because I think there's three parts. I'm so I'm right here.

oh I'll throw I'll throw you I'll throw you a little lure here so we can. We can start on a topic. very simple. So the video from you Kitty highlights me in particular at the end as hypocrisy because I had made a statement saying it was weird when Aiden Ross pulled up full-blown porn on stream and I called it weird which I still think it was.

It is weird. but it is weird because you have to consider that there definitely were kids watching now I Know the point that you as well as a lot of the pseudo-intellectuals in the comments made is like, well, at least there was an 18 plus warning on there. Yeah and fair enough. Uh, not that that's a great Safeguard which I think is what you wanted to touch on what that is there.

Yeah, that was there where you click. Yes, I'm 18. well actually I don't I'm kick I don't know if you have to even click anything I think you can still just go. but regardless, it was in like the title I think So that's a point that a lot of people like to make.

And then fast forward to the Fansley advertisement: there was no porn shown. Would you argue that anything was sexually explicit in the advertisement itself? Was there any nudity or anything that you wouldn't find on Instagram or on Twitch itself right now? Oh oh yeah. so so uh okay. Oh yeah.

okay I'm not gonna that that I'm not gonna go down that route. So I think it's it's dumb right? Me personally, with my my core beliefs, um I think I think yes, but for the sake of the argument and the sake of terms of service. No. So that my answer to that is is uh, no, the actual picture was shown and things right? Well, not not a problem, right? So we can stop right there so we can recognize.

there's already a distinct difference between Aiden Ross showing full-blown porn, nudity and everything versus the advertisement that was shown which was all clothed. Now it advertises to something that is full-blown porn, but this is where we get back to safeguards. I as well as most people I imagine are under the impression that Fans leaves a service that can only be accessed once you log in and verify you're 18 years old. That's no different than kick having an 18 plus check in the title or whatever.

So I feel like there's already extra Degrees of Separation on that front as well I don't feel it's there's any Merit to claiming that I'm hypocritical for calling Aiden Ross pulling up porn which was on stream out of nowhere at random. just legitimate full nudity porn versus a porn advertisement which had no sexual content in it whatsoever until you went to the site and then signed up. Now I Understand the site isn't very secure from what I've read, you can sign up at any age. it doesn't really do good checks.

That's information I didn't know at the time. but even still, that is a problem with fansley itself that I was unaware of. But the point still stands. Me laughing when that pops up is not hypocritical because it was not nearly on the same playing field as the thing people are calling out.

that I've said before which was pulling up literal PornHub on stream in front of the audience is a very Far Cry way. I Don't think it's hypocritical either because people think it's like a black and white right and I I think I think laughing I think I Generally think that laughing it as something being like dumb and and like surreal and kind of stupid right? I Think people get the point. Well, it doesn't make it, doesn't make you like an endorser slash whatever right? because something extremely terrible Like let's say it's called the Island of violence. Oh, that's terrible, right? But somebody let's say is saying it.

Oh man. uh. Making a comment about something that isn't crazy, Then you maybe say this is kind of crazy is kind of dumb, right? And I think laughing or saying the same thing as I did it right, doesn't flip the switch into endorsing it. Or does that make sense or not? You get it.

I I Absolutely understand what you're saying and that's the only point I was making. Mu Kitty highlights me as a hypocrite. she is still on Twitter saying I'm huffing copium by defending that there is a huge distinction between what was broadcast by Aiden and what was advertised by QT. So this is what I said on stream and I'll say it here as well because I know she watches you a lot.

If she truly feels these are exactly the same situation and it is hypocritical, then I would like her in her next video to play the unedited uncensored version of Aiden Ross's PornHub moment and then play the QT Cinderella Fansley advertisement so we can see them side by side and see if they really are the exact same situation like she insinuates they are I Imagine that won't go super well. One of those clips is going to get her band and the other one is right now on YouTube and twitch without problems. and I think you can guess which one that is? Yeah, it is not the same yeah and I I get that. um so so I think the hippopotamus is out the window.

just some of the argument patterns that um which don't earn a big deal. uh but overall that's why I said it. Basically the issue that I had it is at one point you say that um something that I hear a lot like like twitch hot stuff like that right I think this should have been uh, instead of being being widened, this should have been uh, it should have been really hard on on the hot tub and and picking stuff. They should have been hard on it.

but instead they caved in to the demand and they kind of wind it. As long as you're not though, it could be like half naked right? which is like it's just pseudonymity or Unity right? it's kind of up, right? And in the video you sell one point you say oh yeah, but it's nothing that um on Twitch if you compare it and it Twitches them better I even if you're not, even if you're young, you can just click on on the category like hot tub and you're gonna see nudity right? But then I could have fire back at you when you say I'm not gonna use it earlier about uh, um, you're able to look at the ad right then you. then you won't get banned if you're like a foreign I mean if you take the content from from uh, if you take the content that's in Fansley and you would have put on Twitch Well, you would get banned right? If you take the content that's that's being that that has been pushed towards and call to action to consume to put that in the category. Well, now you would get banned.

Does that make sense? Yeah, but I don't see the relevance to the overall. The reason I brought up the hot tub streaming was just to point out uh, once again that that content that was shown by the Fansley advertisement is not content that is like actually worse than what Twitch is already advertising which is hot tub streams like I said if you go on Twitch right now and you're not logged in, you are recommended hot tub streamers in that, uh, recommended section 100 of the time. The point was this content is already on Twitch and already super accessible. It's kind of weird to focus the outrage on that advertisement for the content of the advertisement when it's not worse than what's already here.

Now going to where it's advertising, that is a problem, but once again, that's a degree of separation where you would only like I said I didn't know this at the time, you would only think you could access that content at 18 plus through a verification check which apparently Fansley doesn't really do. The whole point with the hot tub segment was just to highlight that this content wasn't like outrageously sexual, especially when compared to what's already on. Twitch It wasn't really trying to make a grander point about like the state of hot tub streaming on Twitch itself. Yeah, yeah, uh.

I got that. I Just thought that since you're knowledgeable about um, safeguards well, at least from certain barriers that um, you would have tried to investigate. the fact that if you do understand the importance and the use of safeguards and how they're kind of, it's the best we could do right? Let's say, like 80 plus checks that um, it would be. It would be kind of weird for a Cutie's treatment to advertise and make a call to action to enact with a product that's 80 plus without having the 18 plus tag on her ownership broadcasted that stream.

So you're saying for the overall stream having an 18 plus due to the sponsor having explicit content? Absolutely see. That's a totally fine argument to make, but that's not one that Mu Kitty was making against me. I'm only fighting back on the hypocritical stuff because I think that's a load of horseradish. That's all I'm talking about.

So everything I'm talking about is to defend that I'm not here to defend the fans lead being on here like I said multiple times now I think both are probably not the best decision to play porn on a stream or advertise porn to a stream, especially when it's not like beforehand. Is it going to be an 18 plus sponsor? That's totally fine. I I Agree, You could have absolutely had an 18 plus somewhere in there. Absolutely.

That wasn't the point of the video though. Yeah, yeah, um, see people talk about Nuance But I think I think when your site is advertised as an adult site adult content, then you have to make a parallel with something as drastic as just saying. It's like a PornHub And at that point, right at that point, um, if you're if you advertise uh, something like like Fansley, then you will. You'll be okay with your stream being it not 18 plus as a tag in the title or or in the setting and advertising it straight up.

Pornhub Because PornHub has a lot of videos of creators that are not naked and I know, but or uh, they are not naked, they're just doing some some like robot, whatever or SMR And there is a lot of nudity in nude and directly pornographic content the same way that Fansley does. and that creates a one-to-one equivalency in product being delivered. Or Advanced to be consumed by the consumer, right? Yeah, But you've already overlooked the court component of that example. PornHub is easily accessible without any kind of login or verification.

Fansley, to my knowledge, you still do have to log in, albeit its system is completely dog and lets anyone in under 18. so there is still a difference in the actual service itself, but the product does stay the same. You're right and again, that would be something you would absolutely need the 18 plus check on and would be something that again I would say is not a great decision. Foreign? Yeah, at that point it's very difficult because then we're talking about the severity and efficacy of safeguards, right? overall.

and I think that's a discussion that the Internet isn't ready to have. Um I think it's a discussion Everyone already knows the safeguards. like I mean clicking I am 18 on Kik I mean that's the easiest thing in the world No One's Gonna See that and be like I'm not 18 I'm gonna get the out of here. This is too intense for me.

It's it's the safeguards aren't effective. However, when you go to a service that I assumed was a paid service for only 18 plus subscribers, you would expect them to do their due diligence with like an ID check or something I think only fans does that though I'm not positive because I don't use that either I would think there'd be some kind of system in place since it's paid porn where they check that you're of age to be purchasing it so that check I imagine would have been a little more thorough than the standard one of Click Yes, I'm 18. but apparently that's not the case which I didn't know. Okay, I feel like the uh, um so safeguards are is a massive topic right? Um, because safeguards it.

It literally makes makes you have conclusions I think I generally think uh and and it makes you understand it right? In my opinion, you either take them seriously or you don't There's not much of a Nuance there because regardless of how good they are, people discredit them, right? Yeah, for sure I mean there's always ways around it 100 Yeah I don't think you'll get any pushback on that? Yeah, yeah, because see uh I'm a good thing of the of the gamble era that I noticed right? Is that um, if you when you think about in my opinion, this is a crypto gambling sites right? in terms of of safeguards Capelli yes I'd like to be on a commercial sorry I I had to add open or some or something LinkedIn chat or really like click on the accident. Oh my god. Um so I go daddy with the big titties. My bad.

Um, yeah, that'll get you out of going I Had you going awuga? Yeah, so so the good parent? um, is that. um, if you think about internet safeguards and then you do online, uh, virtually Crypto Java sites are the most inaccessible of almost all content out there. because, um, one right? there's uh, 18. Plus, whenever you log in, create account whatnot and even that, to interact with the product, to build a table to actually play with money, right? You have to have, um, an account to deposit crypto from it, right? And how do you get that? Well, if they go to NX Check, you have to go to an exchange, right? And from that exchange, right, you have to make an account net.

accounts you have to, You have to submit, um, like your passport and so like a legal docs like legit legitimate, legitimate legal documents for them to verify your accounts. Then you have to, um, so I don't know what they call again traffic I forgot it's called uh uh, Kyc. So after Wtnyc is a link, your bank transfer funds twice and then go back to the website. that's 18 plus and then you can enable the product.

Is this something or an activity that that targets or is prone to children I Think that's incredibly disingenuous of an argument to push I think I don't know who's pushing that argument because that was not in that video at all I don't know I'm gonna be honest I don't know how we got the gambling I was gonna let you click on it if you wanted to. but yeah, I didn't say anything about gambling. It's all good, but for what it's worth, there actually have been a couple cases where people kids have signed up for crypto gambling because they usually don't check the verification until it's time to cash out. So I Remember there was a story I read not long ago where uh kids signed up they had some money they won through crypto gambling I don't remember what site I don't think it was steak but it was one of those and they had money in the account but they couldn't cash it out because then they needed to verify their age.

but snake was more than willing to take the money before verifying. I I Don't know what this has to do with the the core topic, but I mean yeah, that's this. Any safeguards are prone to being breached regardless, but yeah, some are better than others. So so there's always an argument that is that is that the show that that uh safeguards in my opinion have a wide array of them.

and if people, if people in general the public doesn't agree with the argument of Gamma safeguards which are I think one of the strongest out there because of how hard it is to get there right that they will never, ever accept any online safeguards without supervision. Ever Unless their parent has to put their thumb in the machine right and log them in, they will never agree to any safeguards on their net. they just won't And these will. These people need to understand that the argumentality is bricked.

That's all that's all foreign I followed you all the way up until you left the Safeguard component about putting like their thumb or like oh, where's where's their thumb going and where like oh so it's like a biometric scanner is that is that. It's hard to argue when you make the argument about safeguards people are getting. People are gonna give you some push back and saying oh, you're easy to distance I Generally think it the people that say that safeguards are bad, right? They aren't really to understand it that I don't know who's saying safeguards are bad. No, no, no, don't work yet don't work right Oh gotcha, it doesn't matter the severity of the Safeguard They will never agree that cigarettes online work or have any value unless the parent.

unless it becomes a time where parents have to do come in with a thumb print a thing and they put their thumb in a machine that that scans their agent and then they're adjustable to play right? If it's not that, they will never agree with any degrees of online safeguarding, they'll just say that it's just you're talking about. Okay, so then the point You're The Grand Point You're making to kind of relate it back is in terms of safeguards and you're using gambling uh as a song. okay Gotcha as an example of strong safeguards. Okay, so if people, if people don't agree with the strongest they've got, then they will never agree to any of the reason, right? Because it's like it's like impossible.

At that point it's like it's literally it's like, uh, it's like whenever you're young you ever go to the Blockbuster and there's like a there's like a Draper and then you go and you peek through the boobies area. Well I didn't know Blockbuster had a boobies area. Holy that was a well-kept secret from me now I can't say I've had that experience. Oh I mean our local like Blockbuster spots I mean we didn't I mean in Quebec we didn't have bloggers we're in the store we would go I mean we would go to the uh a store right? We get movies and we would pick because they had like a door but instead of a door that's physical it's like uh like drapes right? like a curtain and it would go pick the curtain at the adult movies right? And it would look at like the the thumbnails right? Oh gotcha.

So like would it be like a like a a shelf or something full of adult films? No. and it was a room with a door. Oh okay okay Jesus Christ yeah and then Plus past year and it would go and pick it and that's just kind of how it goes anyway. uh um see that's like the type of Safeguard you know that there is sometimes around these things uh and and I feel like they don't understand the same thing a little bit.

so like like inefficient type of Safeguard type you know? Um yeah I mean there's there's certainly a conversation to be had about the effectiveness of safeguards and how we can make them stronger. Uh, none of that was at all what I talked about Again, it was all just about the hypocritical games. Okay, about what I just thought about what I told you. but I do read though that I don't think it's hypocritical to um, if to to uh, react in various ways to various degrees of something right? like because I think all of us can agree that the severity is different between pulling up Pornhub on stream versus the advertisement which didn't have the explicit content though did advertise to it which again I have said many times now is still not great, but it is inarguably not as bad as the Aiden Ross situation.

Thus, I don't think it's hypocritical to have not immediately made a huge think about that and instead laughed at it and then called it uncomfortable. That seems about right and if and if she disagrees then again I welcome her to play the unedited, uncensored Aiden Ross PornHub moment in her next video yeah and then play the QT Cinderella fansley moment and we'll see how it goes and see how similar they are. You know what? Tim I just get up I Just came up with that I like making Uh parallels and are I like making what we call it um, analogies that apply one to one right that are valid to try some of that on topic again, you know what? I Just thought about that topic of violence, right? If I show you a Clipper of UFC right? which is which is people sign a waiver they wanted to go to fight right? right? That's one thing, right? it's it's that That's about as consensual as it gets to fighting it. and then a video of some guy who does like an assault like it was part of me a face in real life right? who comes by it.

It's just knocked him to find a bing right? I Think if I show you the kill of the UFC right, you'll you'll have a certain reaction and we should assault. We have a very different reaction, right? I Think you know this is the topic of violence. It's still violent in both ends. The reaction to these things will be really different from one end to the other.

Even though it's extreme, the twins are very extremely, they're very extreme. I Still think yeah, it's if there's value to present the argument that there are the grades of reaction based on what is happening here. Eric you're laughing I could make it a sponsor and you're saying what the International show porn is not doesn't show hypocrisy I Don't think that I don't know. Typical I don't think that's hypocrisy and I think I appreciate that.

Yeah, yeah. I'm hoping after this conversation, she will also see it that way because I just I don't see the other side of the coin I Get Fansley itself has problems where if you do sign up like it doesn't actually verify your 18 like apparently, you can just sign up with Twitch and it doesn't check if you're 18. it takes Twitch's word. that's a problem And that's of course information I didn't have at the time.

but even still, there is a very different degree of severity between pulling up Pornhub versus pulling up the Fansley advertisement. So even still, the again, the whole thing was just tackling the hypocrisy statement. Yeah, yeah, a chance they're both bad ones worse. which is why I talked about it first.

Yeah, exactly. Well, just just as I'm falling. but the reality is that, uh, both my gotchas are like on semantics. Even though I still think that there's a value to the gotchas, your argument is always back to your video uh title, which is good.

it's a good idea. As a debater or a talker, you go back to the hypocrisy about that, right? That's the topic again, right? And you are right I don't believe you're You're Gonna Go It was more like, um, getting sidetracked on small semantics rather than big topics because I agree, there's nothing wrong with that like they're like again. it is a legitimately nuanced topic that you can have a lot of branching conversations about for sure. but that wasn't the point of the video.

it was to tackle just one Topic in particular. But yeah, I totally see what you're talking about on other things for sure. I'll be honest, once you started bringing in like thumbprint, retina scanner stuff, you kind of had me wondering what was being whipped up in the kitchen back there by the chef. But overall I think I understand where you're trying to go with a lot of like the branching paths to the conversation.

Wrong with that, you know I said that I said something because it is the last amount of barrier you can have because it's called the three rule life. It's life. Life on three rules F A F A One Two three. Always remember this: Charlie Something that you know something that you have something that you are.

The reason why I brought the argument of thumbprint is is the last line of defense behind who we are as people. in terms of security like that it is something that you are an adult and though has its thumb and they'll press it. Otherwise, the children can act easily to something that you know a password, something that you have a computer or a device but they don't have. that is something that you are that parents done.

Boom thoughts. There was a lot in there. Overall I think I understand the bigger point that you were aiming at and you know I I like the passion behind it and I do think I agree I Hope I I hope I understood you correctly. That's right.

I I hope there there's just a lot in there that was going on. It got very almost. uh Socrates for a moment with the what you are kind of stuff. Well I think do you know you don't get that? it's F A Factor Identification Right has a maximum of three.

It's a triangle one, something that you will know a password right? a password, a name, a code word, something that you have like a an authenticated device so you play into your computer. uh, a physical object but also something that you are so your thumbprint, your eyes, your DNA your uh, right see and the third one is a strongest by far right? Yeah, that sounds absolutely. this is the three Fa three F a baby. That's right, that's right.

Okay man, good conversations have a good stream. That's right. Chat. You get it? You guys yet? you guys yet? guys? the thing is okay is that I didn't know I respect the hustle Charlie Carolata about not looking at the hypocrite and nobody wasn't living He said a lot about hypology so he kept reeling back towards another hypocrite because I wasn't gonna devalidate his feeling about nothing ever because I don't think he is okay based on the fact that I don't agree on his the semantics.

but I still don't agree with the semantics presented in in it. But does that mean I'm going to go against him in a big debate. Not really. It's very opinionated.

I don't think it's gonna use it I Just thought that it was one thing about synthetics but he didn't want to self I don't know the base of the semantics because because I I think bringing Twitch up to the same level as like, um, only offensely is bad because Fansley doesn't allow. uh, Twitch doesn't allow nudity in the ways that Fansley does. That's all better. It's partial nudity.

We agree, it's better, better good. But I mean I'm a big bubble guy. so I mean I See, today's like 34 months of fat sniffer. 29 months Pac-Man I think maybe we'll look at Hypocrites is is an easy job.

It's like it's a little bit like, um, misinformation. It's easy to cause damage and it's hard to undo it. I think the video made isn't that bad from her. It's okay.

Um, any pot friends in chat? uh I don't think they're like hypocrisy because you know, like I don't know. It's kind of odd ice don't look it up guys because she she said that that other people are hypocrites, right? because they promote something that's consensual, consensual, nudity, and sexual work compared to non-consensual When that is just that, that's not cool. That's just not cool. If somebody wants to be naked and both pictures themselves, they're allowed to.

they give a consent to If somebody has pictures of them taken uh, and modified to ready like the naked with AI Or is it that's that's different. It's different. You write like a homie with a crew. It's not the same thing.

Yeah.