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Jason admits he does indeed no. He did not admit that when he's met with girls, no, he did not guys there. There's guys. I saw a bit of the debate, but a girl gets into my games.
So, out of respect for my wife and my relationship, i avoid situations that would be uncomfortable. What? Because, if i was in her posit, how is it an uncomfortable situation if you match with a girl man, huh equations that would be uncomfortable dude, it's not a recycled. Take okay. I said this last time: it's not like when you get into a game.
Okay, we get into a game. Oh maybe there's a girl, it's not like they're, all they're, all flirty and weird, and make any everything about relationships. Even if you have a girlfriend. Okay, to get into a game, it's not like they're gon na start, like like, like grinding on you after, like you're at the club they're playing some video game.
Okay and and chances are since they're high rated they're, just as degenerate as men are at the computer. Greasy and weird okay that doesn't apply to any gender or what the okay, okay. It is, what it is you're not getting grinded on at the club. Okay, that's why i don't understand now this is an awkward situation.
It's not awkward! It's not uncomfortable you're playing a video game, man you're, shooting guns with characters. What? Because if i was in her posi, the chat gets weird people get yeah, but you know you know who's not weird, though um um you as a streamer, okay, yes, yes, this is my you guys. This is the the guys. This is good day, cam! Okay, even if chat is weird, it doesn't mean that you have to be weird.
Okay. I i've always said this. Okay, you are the conductor as a streamer. Okay, that's why sometimes some girl appears on the screen.
She's ought okay but then, but then let's say i don't know. Let's say i had a a sister or or a mother. She comes on stream. It just says i lost that's weird, that's weird chat's being weird: i'm the conductor, i'm not bu buying it.
I time out the chat. I moderate the chat, there's no more of that dumb going on because, yes, you can move something and you don't have to boo-boo something else with my arm. So skinny man, okay, you understand what i'm saying isn't something i'm saying: okay, it's a very, very important concept. Okay! Is that, yes, the chat will make it weird okay, but if you, if you moderate it - and you don't act on it, okay, it shouldn't affect your relationship, it just shouldn't.
If it does that's something that we have things around: okay, that are called um. You know like um, like counselors and man. If you talk about your problems with a professional one, but that that comes out to personal things, so i'm not gon na get into that void situations that would be uncomfortable. This guy says that so what it is, his own decision candle culture tards make a big out of it.
Okay, if you talk in ways that are like weird and kind of like against women a little bit and it always lines up against women, you have takes that are always against women and dodge games against women. There's a good chance. You don't like women holy. I can't believe i said that that is the most insane thought i've ever had in my life, guys guys. I can't believe it guys. I can't believe it then holy that everything lines up with not liking women - oh my god guys. It's his personal decision, yeah you're right, but when every presentation you make are all against women, there's a good chance, you don't like women and trying to hide. It is weird sorry, man, so yeah, sometimes there's a character on the screen that i don't like in masterchef.
As they that you're just being a ass, and oh my god, it's a girl somebody, i hate women, no cause we're like we like other women. We, like a bunch of them most of them, there's one of you, don't like it. We don't like this one person and it so happens, it's a woman. So what? If the data all lines up, then it's a different story.
Idiot. Okay. I embrace my my experiences with women all the time in my games. I i try to empower women when i see 50 and i'll chat, say dude, dude you're getting beat by a woman, oh or when you were playing a game or whatever or or should like it dude did it uh you're, beating a woman.
No, we don't shut down that dumb, we don't we don't. I don't give a dude check, it's moderated very heavily. Okay and - and it reflects my views on women and i have a strong sense on it and you're not gon na, have one into me saying somebody as a testament of who i am well. If it's the opposite, i would expect you to use that as a testament of who i am yes, yes, absolute 100.
What about it? Because if i was in her posit, the chat gets weird people get. Oh, my god, my saliva is so white. Look at this! Just crush me, that's kind of weird and a girl gets. Oh, my god.
This is weird. I think i need to hydrate. Take it to the conversation. I wonder if he dodges female cashiers when he goes to shopping.
No problem is his wife's job. Oh my god. Wait he was, he was in the drama. I don't even if kids gamble and lose money, okay.
Well, you need to grow the up, but is there any woman in the level of violence it plays regardless yeah um? This is something yeah. You have to talk to your your wife about okay, okay, and i mean it's personal okay, but this is a weird yeah. It's no excuse! Okay, because if you have a girlfriend or a wife do not play with not an excuse, it's just not wasn't! It are given similar to this kind of kind of, but ninja ninja didn't avoid or dodge no nana the stance, the stances the stain was it was, it was a little softer, it was. It was he's not gon na purposely dodge, but if he can avoid, he will which isn't as strong as it is not as strong of a take.
It isn't as strong. It is, it is still pretty far out, but it's not as firm dude. It is not the same thing: it's not the same thing dodging and avoiding is not the same thing guys purposefully going going out of your way to do a collaboration on stream with somebody. Okay is not the same as getting put around into a game with somebody and leaving the game. It is not the same thing. It is not even close. Oh my god, this is so dumb. Sometimes man.
This is my show buddy and you are supposed to be a friend of mine, but i don't agree with it. There's no friendship about it. I'm not talking about you. Okay, no, no hear me out.
You want to know something i there over the course of two years of valorent i have played with multiple women i play with my wife. I play unreal and you are supposed to be a friend of mine, but i don't agree with it. There's no friendship about it, i'm not talking about you. Okay, no, no hear me out.
You want to know something i there over the course of two years of valorent i have played with multiple women i play with my wife. I play unrated with girls. I've there's vods out there, i'm not going to go out and search for these because random people, who absolutely guys guys guys guess i'm not misogynistic, okay, guys, please trust me: okay, okay, i'm not kidding, i'm not getting in. Look at my vods okay, often enough.
I can tolerate women's in my video games. Sometimes, okay, there's evidence of that bro. You should look 100 like dude. What the what the defend, your name and your matter, if you don't agree with it and defend it, but this is what the this is.
Where things lie like there's, there's there's been clips. It's it's! It's gotten to the point where it's everyone kind of it's already, the nice. That's where things stand and look. I don't.
I don't have anything against you personally, but it's guys. That is not even the same argument. That's saying, as the only recent people say, guys, i'm not racist. I have a black friend that would be.
That would be that that would be like saying it: hey guys, hey guys, uh, i'm not racist, uh um. So sometimes i i walk alongside uh black people in the middle of the street like what huh this isn't about me. This isn't me trying to queue with you. Okay, i'm trying to paint this picture what's picture.
Have i asked you to play? No, i don't. I don't i don't i don't say that, but i'm just saying it's: okay, sure, that's not even about it. I'm just this is uh. You asked me why i think you're an elf and you are supposed to be a friend of mine, but i don't agree with it.
There's no friendship about it. You want one easier comparison, it's like saying, because i can't no dude, i'm not racist dude in my class. There's black people can't say what actually happened with riot, because i could probably get in trouble but um, it's more. So what l? Because i can't hey what actually happened with right, i'm sorry yeah yeah yeah, you, you won't have uh. You want to have good comparisons and good good, analogies yeah. I don't care saying it. I'm not going to get cancelled because i could probably get in trouble because i can't say what actually happened with riot, because i could probably get in trouble, but um it's more. So why does that think? Jason? You have to come to an understanding that eric is still your friend outside i'm gon na.
Do that outside of you and let me the jump scare jasoner, i think people's personalities on esports or online are completely different than their realities. I think, because i can't that's inherently a problem that is inherently a problem. If you want, you could jump on the internet because you're anonymous or like on the internet, you can you can. You can be even crazier, and even even weirder, especially when it comes down to to to certain people, then yeah you're, that's just it's just how's that a good thing.
It's not a bit and you are supposed to be a you are supposed to be. How does it start anyway? I don't know man, you just dodge a game. No me behind. You don't feel bad for me.
I don't feel bad for myself. I don't care, i lose all the time. I run this down. Two minutes is not the person sure why not.
Let's see, let's see why what okay? You don't want to play anymore because we're losing that that's genius i want to play, but i feel bad. Every time we play together, we always lose so i feel bad. No, you feel bad for yourself, don't feel bad for me. Oh, i don't feel bad all the time.
I don't care either. If that's your concern, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait! Wait, wait! Hold on hold on give me two minutes: let's wait for jason. I want to hear his spiel. I want to hear this wait.
Why don't at the beginning of the stream to come in here, the elf run incident yeah, my boy, i mean i don't know right now. Are you whining no dude, this guy just killed me i'll fight you this guy's, this guy's an election dude? Where is this? This guy's an elder, i'm pissed. Why so we could have yours, oh come on, i'm going to add the blue, i'm listening to this. Let's hear this, i'm i'm! You know i wasn't going to watch it now he's trying to play a victim card here which doesn't make sense, but let's see, let's just hear what he has to say: it's not really children drama, though it's i mean it's kind of a strong stance, though all Right guys, guys guys guys, destiny is banned.
A lot of viewers are drama andes. This is free real estate dude, it's free real estate, i'm claiming what's mine, the all right. So why am i an elf friend jason get celsius out of here he's not going to talk he's just listening, i'm just i'm just saying he's not talking. Are you really want to do this yeah sure? Why not? Let's see, let's hear it you're positive? Why the we don't have to do it you this entire time you've been taking this weird stance about this whole thing. You've been like. Okay, i don't know, what's my weird stance about this whole thing, let's hear it what's my weird stance about this whole thing: are you ready, okay, sure it is sure bro you were in a you were in a a position where you have, but you have met Both me and stephanie, in real life - yes, that is hundred percent. True i have watched stephanie - is what life does hang out with countless you're. We hung up with you and your girl.
We hung out with multiple people's relationship like okay. There, girls, you were in a position to tell people yo jason r is not the person that these people are trying to label him. As you are in that position, you chose to be quiet. I have.
Why is in chat is just is just in a chat. No, the notion. Isn't user json he's here, man holy, that's insane, that's insane dude! That is crazy! Okay, good hear me out: you have you, have defended and shut down, i'm watching drama man, certain people, but you listen i'll. Let the arguments unfold, okay, but i i won't go easy because i have strong beliefs.
Chat has known this. Okay, should i know this. I i have strong beliefs, okay, it is what it is: okay, okay, um. I i i won't go out of my way and stretch arguments until they they bend and crack okay.
I try to stay, level-headed, yo, i've not gone out and told people and actually gave people a character. Witness of me now not only has people have like you got, train wrecks. Who came out and talked about me. You had mo come out and talk about me.
That's tough because i feel like i feel like i wouldn't use uh a train or mow, as i'm gon na say that i'm saying i'm not you know i would 100 had your back, no matter what i don't give a about viewers. I don't give a about anybody outside of this me and you being a friend, and you chose 100 100 100 because i didn't be quiet. I gave my opinion on this matter just to be clear. I've already, given my opinion on my stream multiple times about this, but continue you so so what am i lying about? Being quiet? No, i have not been quiet.
I have talked about this on my stream, because my stance is that, have you said what i have can i have something because something or something i feel like, i feel like i feel like uh uh, i i'm just gon na, say it guys. Okay, before this even starts okay, okay, no! No! I have not! No, because that doesn't matter, there's no, it doesn't it's not it doesn't. It doesn't apply to the context. Yes, i've hung out with you and your girlfriend sure, but it doesn't take away from the fact that there's undeniable undisputable evidence that you clearly dodge cues versus girls.
If i play with you, then it seems like i support that behavior and i don't i don't know why you do it. It's your personal reason, it's your private matter, but i don't agree with it. Okay also, this is okay, he says is your pet matter. It's not it's, not okay, uh you can have. You can have a a reason, type of thing or something that's private, but if you do something publicly it becomes public. It is not private. It is not private if you're, if you're in a game with thousands of viewers with with 10 live players, and you dodge when there's a girl, it is not a private matter, it simply is not. It is not public.
Sorry, i think that it is weird. That's my stance on it and, if i play with you, then it seems like i support that behavior and that's where i stand, but i've never i've never been on my stream. Talking about you or saying anything. Bad i've never been here, like jason, he's doing this jason.
Why is he acting like that? No i'm quiet, but i've said that i don't support it, so i'm not gon na play with him. That's where i stand. You know what that's fair, but again you are taking a neutral stance on it when you are supposed to be a friend of mine, but i don't agree with it. There's no friendship about it.
I'm not talking about you, okay! No! No! That's tough! You want to know something nice there over the course of two years of valorent i have played with multiple women i play with my wife. I play unrated with girls. I've there's vods out there, i'm not going to go out and search for these because random people who have yeah yeah. Yes, you guys, i i don't.
I don't want to dissect everything like destiny does. Actually i will do that because this is bad um, guys guys. I feel like there's a lot of things that that can uh characterize you or examples of your character. That can mean that you're not like a uh, misogynist or whatever, i feel like handling women in a game.
Uh, isn't the first thing i would jump to or whatever okay just because it doesn't really mean much um i feel like, but it's okay, absolutely. You should 100 defend your name and your matter if you don't agree with it and defend it, but this is what the this is where it thinks, because that's like that's like the basis. It's like the very like a foundation like okay, i'm in a game, i'm i'm not. I didn't cue with a woman i match with a woman.
Oh i'm gon na i'm gon na handle them uh uh until the end of the game, and i did that multiple times over the course of the year and that's not like a milestone, i feel like or something that's like a disliked character at all. Things lie like there's: there's there's been clips, it's it's gotten to the point where it's everyone kind of it's already, the general opinion. That's where things stand and look? I don't. I don't have anything against you personally, but it's no, but this isn't about me.
This isn't me trying to queue with you. Okay, i'm trying to paint this picture what's picture. Have i asked you to play? No, i don't i don't i don't i don't say that, but i'm just saying it's: okay, sure, that's not even about it! I'm just this is a you asked me why i think you're an l friend and here's why you blew up on twitch and you're too scared to play a position of trying to defend bro. I just told you, i'm not gon na defend you. If i don't agree with it, why the would i defend you? I don't agree with it. I have not slandered your name. Are you seeing me slandering your name? Are you seeing me i could easily gang up and be like? Oh jason doesn't play with girls jason's gon na dodge me. No aspect chat because i feel like he's not guys he didn't gang up on him.
He just didn't didn't support it, because i'm gon na tell you if this. If this was my friend, i would have definitely ganged up. Why would i defend you you're, not understanding me, i don't want you you're, not understanding me dude. This isn't about well! Well, because it's simple, i'm gon na tell you one, i'm a bad friend but two ass and them.
I think that makes me a good friend ironically, because, if me gang up on him, it's kind of like my my word is worth more than public opinion's word, because i know him as a friend and if i tell him, hey man, that's dumb as right. That's really dumb, my word might be more impactful and might make more of a change than public opinion might and a story defending what i'm doing it's about being a character witness to to me and listen to me, my stream has my numbers or my stream has Nothing to do with my view on the matter. It doesn't change any. If i, if i wanted to, i would.
I have defended people in public matters over and have changed my view on. You hasn't changed. I don't think of you as a bad. It's your personal private thing and i think that i don't agree with it.
It is weird to me: i don't support it and i want to seem like i support it. I have nothing against you personally. I know that toric, okay, i know that so why. Why is it me being an private if you, if you handle a topic privately and it be here, the behavior doesn't change.
Okay, then i'm allowed to talk about it, uh in public. What are you talking about dude? What is it as a friend? What was it as a friend? Are you supposed to i supposed to say, hey man, that what you're doing is weird and private, and then they keep doing it in public or over and over again? And you guys are supposed to be a good friend and act like it doesn't exist and act like like it's not there like what. If i could talk about oh friend, because i'm not going out in the public and acting like, i support what you're doing when i don't, why do i why? Why would i do that? Why? Why should i? Why should i act like i agree with this supporting me, this isn't about take that separately. Aside, put it aside, okay, okay! Put that, aside put all i don't, this does it's about being.
If somebody comes in my chat and says, yo tariq is a racist piece of that. Can that's blah blah blah blah what okay, because he did xyz. Okay, i would say i would say tariq because i'm not gon na talk to nobody before reacting to this again. Unless the parties say that they don't they don't agree anymore with their own takes and they've moved on or whatever sure, but as i'm watching i'm watching this, i'm watching. So i said to anybody, i'm not doing anything. I would say yeah because you can defend me on that matter, because there's no reason to there's no reason to think i'm racist there's, no, nothing to lead you to that point. Yes and i've kept it in my chat where people. If people were talking, i've been the word, your name is blocked out, because i don't want it in my chat.
I don't want it to be a discussion. No, no, okay, okay! This is vampires. Okay, guys. This is very important.
I'm gon na tell you guys. Okay, i'm gon na tell you something very important: okay, okay, i've been i've, been i've been in hot water, with two things that even there are, even even sometimes in the same sort of center. This, i don't mean all of myself: okay, but listen because i've been called i've been called uh homophobic because of one thing i said, and i've been i've been called a racist there's. One thing that i did in the past both things which are in pretty insane right, which should normally you get canceled and i'm gon na tell you why.
I didn't get cancelled, okay, because, because everything that i do and said before before, during and after okay backed up the foundation that i'm not these things, so not only this community, but the public and people who didn't agree backed me up, i didn't need any friend Or everybody to back me up why? Because overall people and things backed me up? Why? Because i i made very, i mean i made very clear with actions with words over long times, because that's what i actually believe in it that i'm not racist or homophobic. I'm going to say, oh dude, because i i i play with the guy who's gay one that no i'm not saying any of that i don't have to, because i i did the things that that that solidified it the foundation that i'm not so whatever i did. I was called even by by top mainstream media. I guess i wasn't called by reddit or by twitter that i was i was hoping because i was called by overwatch league ign uh, big news articles all around the world.
That was these things right and still then nobody had to come and back me up, everybody just just did because that's just that's just how it is. Does that make sense make sense? Okay, so i i can relate to being called a strong words right. I relate a little bit okay, but i don't want people talking about that drama because i agree you are my friend, so i don't wan na. I don't wan na talk about it and i have given my opinion.
This is my opinion, but you saying that if someone comes in your chat and they they're talking about me or this or that of course, you're gon na defend me - and i would do the same but on this i can't defend you. So i don't know what you want me to do, and no. This is those two things. Don't those two things don't really line up? Why you're? Not it's not about defending again it's just about not being a witness of my character. Listen! I. I will 100 percent i've hung out with you and your girlfriend this is it there's nothing wrong guys. This is the main argument. This is my argument i think is that is that him being a bad friend, but him being a witness and not not saying that he was a witness.
I i don't know what he was expecting ted to say, guys everybody's going to be a woman hater, but guys i've seen him in real life for a very short amount of times, and i've seen him be around women for a certain amount of time like what? What is that? How does that prove anything to anybody? It doesn't. These are very small moments that last for minutes, if not hours in private, compared to moments that happen for days or months in public, the gravity of bo of both implications are much different. It is not even comparable with you, but i still think that what you do is weird. Yes, that's where it is man, that's where it stands, but that's fine, but when you have people trying to paint me as somebody that's over here, hating women and having my wife as well hating women, as well as countless accusations that are completely lies.
What you would think that my friend, who has met me and my wife, who has witnessed me and my wife hang out with you and your girl, as well as countless other people's okay girls and them you would think you'd be like you know what, and i Watched jason r hang out with xyz this many times. Listen! No. You know why i didn't you want to know why i don't you know why you can't take that you don't want to take that no position. Listen.
I have no problem in defending mine. I want to take that position because jason, what and that's facts bro jason, no you're completely wrong. I have no problem defending my boy's honor. I have no problem backing my boy up.
If i agree with him, if i'm on his side, it's not moving on you guys guys, i i think you can use very, very mild, analogies to to give uh to give a comparison to what it would look like right. It's it's like it's like. If i uh i, if we go to hang out right and and uh oh dude and we're just hanging out, we look normal normal clothes right, okay and and then i'm done, i'm done, i'm not 100. I got his back even if everyone's again, i don't care.
Listen, but this is the difference. The the this is the listen. This is okay, so it's like. If you okay, you hang out a couple times and you you just look.
You look normal, you do normal things and then and then on your stream. You wear a maga hat and i want to go in public with your car, yeah mega stickers and we'll say, tell him tell him: i don't support trump or whatever he's like dude. You know the fact of the matter. There's clips there's undisputable undeniable evidence of what is brought up of you dodging these cues. This is fact you dodge. When there's a girl, it's been there's so many clips, there's so much that's there. I can't back you up and i don't agree with that. I don't want to back you up.
I don't think it's it's weird. I think it's. I don't think it's right. I don't understand why you're, not understanding that.
How can i back you up if i don't agree with what you're doing like this is not about my stream numbers? It's the most like excuse or argument. You can make that you're trying to say like. Oh, i blew up so i'm not gon na get your back. It's such man agreed i'll, go and agree with that make sense.
I don't know man. This is like. I don't know how else to tell i don't. I don't know how to explain it.
I don't. I don't, i don't think i don't see your side of this. I don't understand, i don't understand how you don't i don't i don't. Can you not understand my perspective, you don't no.
I i understand your perspective, but i we're arguing about two different things. Okay, i get it yeah you're saying you don't want it full reset two different things: let's hear it my side for what i did. That's fine, that's not even a okay! That's not what i'm talking about dude. So what are you talking about that? I didn't bring up the fact that i hung out with you and your girl.
Why would i randomly bring that up like what am i gon na bring that up about? That's what that's what i said it is. It is so unimportant guys it's a little bit like if somebody said something really. Ah you don't it doesn't it it's not worth bringing up at all. It's not it's, not a it's you're gon na bring it up from people saying everyone knows.
You have a girlfriend. Jason, why am i bringing it up? Obviously you have a girlfriend saying it all you're, not what i'm saying at all that i hung out with you and your girlfriend friend and and saying that no it's about people are taking it way too far and look, i agree, look i'm sure the that who Has met me and met who i am and has met my wife and knows that we're not like that and not do that, and we don't okay. Sometimes people do they get too far, though true but depends that's it and you you chose hear me out. You chose to take a neutral side and that's fair and you and and that's why i'm trying to understand why you're pinning this on me and using this card of you know you are you're trying to make me look like a no listen, listen you're trying to Make me look like an because i have a big stream.
I get numbers and you're trying to paint the picture of me not wanting to defend you because of that, and that's not true at all. I think that's. Okay, true, that is a argument. Hello, yo! It's it's.
I i we're just we're arguing about two separate things. I think i don't think we're arguing about two separate things. I think that i gave you my perspective and why i don't i gave you my perspective and why and i feel like you should respect that as a friend as well like. How can i i don't understand, i don't know why you're trying to throw me under the bus. I could easily go on my stream and talk about you about this and gang up on you and join the drama, because i can. I can meme this situation. Like me, like me, what you do, how do i mean jabs like what are you saying, oh good thing, jason r's, not here, there's a girl in my mind when the have i said that show me a clip of me saying that you're just making up now Dude, no, that's. I've never said that that is such dude done that that no i have not clip it, show me the clip.
Then, let's see the clip, you know what everyone is like bro. What the is this? It's just too much too much too much. This wasn't about this, wasn't about getting mad during what your stance on and all the things that i did wrong and like that it was about why you're, an l friend yeah, i'm trying to explain to you why i'm not an all friend! Why i'm not? If i was an elf friend, i would have been talking about you if i was an alpha, i didn't say anything: why don't you understand about that? No, no, that's not that's! You wouldn't be talking about me. You would be staying, you would be standing in this neutral position.
Bro. If i was, if i agree, you know what guys guys. You know what i'm gon na say. I'm gon na say that is an elf friendly, because i feel like i'm not.
I just feel like he confronted him did come it's gon na now, he's being now he's being a dummy friend, i feel like. I feel like now he's being a w friend, because, if he's confronting him about it anyway guys he could save his his face. Public perception, and even possibly even his career by confronting him personally and say, hey man as a as a friend. What you're doing is wrong, sometimes being a friend, isn't, isn't empowering somebody that is wrong.
It's not trying to change the wrong behavior and making it all right and now that could possibly save them. That's the read what you're doing that! I would back you up. I just i bro i've defended people in my in their honor so many times in the past in rank guest situations in fpl when people get ganged up on, i'm not gon na i'm not that type of person. So i don't know why you're trying to paint that picture it's stupid.
What picture am i painting you're trying to paint the picture that if my friend is getting that just says so he plays with women and he's a good person? Now, wow man, you, you actually are a woman hater. You act if, if all his entire discussion, what you want is that he he tolerates women for the span of a game of valorant. That's it you're, you you're just from the community and it's something that is controversial and that might result in me getting controversial opinions as well. That if i agree with them, i wouldn't support them on their side and be like yo. You guys shouldn't be doing this, but i would if my friend, if, if stu, if everyone was ganging up on stu for some that i don't agree with and it's stupid as i would be like yo. This is stupid, as i don't agree with it. You guys are wrong, but i can't do that. How do you expect me to do that? If i don't, if i'm not agreeing with what's happening, i've already explained that, though we're kind of going in circle, i've already said this many times we have, we are going in circles, i mean it's not about brand risk dude it's the fact is, is so after This is the bottom line, kind of an alphabet, i'm neither of their friend.
I don't know who the these are like csgo boomers. I don't know these, i'm not being a friend, i'm i'm being i'm being i'm the one exploiter reacting in your heart and and you knowing who i am based off of all, like all the times that we've played together. You believe that i'm a some sort of woman, hater misogynist person. I don't think i don't no listen.
Listen, i don't think you're a woman hater. I think this is a personal private matter. That is, is something that you know. It's that you ha it's something personal and private to you, okay, it's your situation, but so then, so then, yes, why? Why do you allow people - and i you know what i don't care about - why you don't? But this is.
This is a rhetorical question. Why would you allow people in your chat who are actively in your chat and to constantly call me bro, i just literally a woman, hater, okay misogyny, and i just you if you, if the question has a possible answer like that, you can actually answer it. I don't think it's oracle. I just told you like three minutes ago that if the question begs an answer, it's not rhetorical.
Is it listen? I've told you that i blocked the word jason r. I don't encourage or promote this conversation in my chat, because i don't want to talk about it because there's nothing i've. I've gave it i've, given my opinion on it. This isn't the question and stop saying chatted yeah, it's personal guys when things sometimes are just too big and they're personal, you can't send it to the personal like if, if any of it a root, a root problem or a root uh, something that makes you do Something that is very out there.
Okay can't say that it's private, like guys guys, i really don't like certain people because of something in it, so i'm gon na go out there and insult them in real life. Every time i see them. If you ask me about it, no, no, no, it's private matter! I can't tell you why what what? What what? What if we can talk about this? Yes, i want to avoid it. Everybody somebody in chat in real life with brown hair, i'm going to say jesus christ is that is that poop on your head. But i'm only thinking about that because, because of a private reason, i'm not going to tell you why. I think that they have put on their head, but i can't tell you why he's private mom, i'm still gon na, do it? What are you talking about 100? I get it. What are you talking about, but it's again is it not a friend if a friend to friend a character witness of someone who who's met, both me and my wife? Yes, you would think a friend who knows who i am what i represent. All of this would say one time you would say one time.
No, i wouldn't i wouldn't say it because i don't is a sexist or a misogynist. That is it, that's it. That's it! Okay! That's it look again, i'm going back to what i said. I i can't defend you because what you do and the the clips that are out there just to summarize this just to summarize this.
Okay, i'm done with this okay. To summarize this, it's simple simple, so yeah people can't back you up for being a certain way. Okay, if you disprove the basis of that a lot of times over a long span of time publicly on stream, it's impossible for them to defend you, it's impossible. They can't do it.
They can do it. It's it's! It's! It's just very important, obvious hello, flip tarik! It's not a it's not about defending. I don't want you to defend me. Okay, ever had a friend like i don't know man i feel like i'm talking.
I don't know what to say who has legitimately never had a friend in real life like on god. This is like dude to me. Okay, like you, were in a very rare position for me you're in a rare position for me. Sometimes i don't understand.
I don't even understand anymore in the planet. For me who could take a position of not of of 100? Not condoning any of my actions, you don't condone my actions, i don't no, but you are. You are in a one-person position of meeting me and my wife and saying dude what the guys this is a long time ago: okay, okay, the beginning of it anyway, from what have you heard? Okay, yeah people that miss out, i think the the reality of his is that i think when he get when he gets into uh games with this woman, he would go as far as as mute again muting him. Sometimes i think, or dodging the game entirely and then and then uh girls in chat that they could tell were girls, they would ban it in the in the chat.
They would moderate a woman in chatting and ban them, which is what was reported, not saying it sure not just saying that it's the basis of the drama, the guy's not a sexist. So why don't you come out and say that and say so? What is your okay, jason, let's hear from you, why do you dodge girls and queues then tell them tell us right now: why are you dodging these games? Yes, tell us my relationship with my wife enough to not allow people to start flipping out that i'm just playing with another girl, okay, and i i totally respect your privacy and your personal decision. I just want to say i totally respect it. That's totally a personal private relationship, it's not it guy! I'm sorry! I'm sorry! You could try to get maddie for saying this. It's not it's not guys if the behavior is super out there and it's very wide like target at women, which is like a big part of the population like probably like, like like 50 or some right. If, if, if your behavior impacts at least half the population? Okay, then you can say it's private. It is good, it has nothing to do with. I think it's weird, i don't agree with it.
What how am i supposed to defend you on this matter? One second right now really quick, give me one sec and i had to say i don't want to get noisy about this. Okay, in my, in my opinion, if it's that much of a problem that you can't stream and do your job, which is playing video games, that sometimes have a woman in it, it's a bit of a problem in in private. I think i think i think it could be good to have relationship counseling talk to a professional about how to tackle these problems and and evolve from them. This is my opinion.
I don't know what to say to this dude. I'm sorry that we're doing this on a stream, but it's pissing me off that he's calling me an l friend, because i'm not standing up for him and something that i don't agree with. I don't i just i just don't under like what like. Am i supposed to go out and say: yo jason, like he has a wife and uh, you know like i've hung out with them and like they're, totally fine like they're, totally normal people yeah.
What's that gon na change about the fact of the matter that he does what he does like, i don't understand why i would try to defend his honor when what he does is so obvious and he's trying to paint me out of this picture of like. Oh, my stream blew up so i'm not defending him. Then he should tell him that face to face, then guys it might be in shape and showing her face to face. Just tell me like what the dude that's so lame man he did give.
This is like. I don't know he's being nice, he's not he's not he's a good friend. We got ta end this. Eventually we got ta end this eventually we're just going in circles all i'm gon na.
I just let me end this with saying, like you know, why now you? Yes, it's out of the respect of your relationship. It's it's out of the respect you were. You were one of the only very few people. Yes, i have met your wife.
You guys are normal, listen, listen! You guys are normal people. Yes, i've met you and your wife, okay, i hang out with your girl. Did i hang out with? Yes, you guys are yes, i've. Never i'm not a sexist, i'm not a misogynist right tariq.
Yes, you guys are normal people, but i don't think what you do is normal you're, not understanding me yeah come on. Man come on, you dodged, it come on. Yes, i've met you and your wife, okay, i hang out with your girl. Did i hang out with? Yes, you guys are yes, i've, never i'm not a sexist, i'm not a misogynist right tarek right. Yes, you guys are normal people, but i don't think what you do is normal you're, not understanding me, that's crazy, but i don't think what you do is just. Why couldn't you just because i don't think what you do is normal, but you would think that you would just be no. I'm not going to say that because i still think it's idiot who deserves all the death threats and that he had to get for the last month and a half listen. I think my friend would have my back for a one minute, dude one minute, i don't.
I don't condone that, and i haven't like put yourself in my shoes for one second right: you are one person, one person who has met my girl and me: okay, okay, you would be now we should ever do this, though nobody should ever go as far as Doing this, okay, okay, nobody should ever do like this. Ever that is absolute weirdo, behavior, okay, not right, not right, not somebody's, acting a certain way and they're valuable! You don't go out of your way to try to try to uh change the course of life and being weird to them. Don't do that! Don't do that because now you're being you're being worse than they are. Unfortunately, i'm sorry.
Yes, you are reading. Wasn't there sorry man, okay, that is that is weird. That is absolutely. That is absolutely disgusting.
Never do that! Yeah, simple concept. So what about that? Because people can improve, get better evolve and they can become good good persons. Okay, you are, you are black and white, not a good person if you have to send death threats. This is weird as be like: yo dude doesn't deserve the threats that he's getting online.
He doesn't deserve all this. All this you don't deserve it. You don't listen to me now. You said it because now i'm talking to you, you didn't say that you didn't say that say what i have, but guess what i had.
People like train, wrecks coming in and saying backing me up. I had people like mo coming in backing me up sabrosa backing me up all these people who were saying things that character witnesses, not misogynist, but you you chose to be a girl about it and just wouldn't say to me: listen i don't i. I don't condone the death threats or the harassment, the harassment that you're receiving. I don't encourage it in any way.
You don't. I don't think anyone deserves that at all. I'm trying to make my point so why wouldn't you just just say it before? Why did you not hmm jason, hey jason? What is that? What does that mean being a girl? What does being a girl entice in this uh in this uh? In this instance, uh vision, jason? Why did you make me come in here and start talking say what? What say what before i'm not condoning that behavior, i don't agree with it, i'm not a sexist that i'm not all these things that people are hating on me, for you are the only person who could say things like this. You met both me and my wife. Listen, i've met you and your wife. I agree you're normal people. I don't think what you do is the the you're. I don't think what you do is normal behavior.
That's what i'm trying to explain to you. So i couldn't back you up on it. I don't think it's right. I think it's weird, that's why i didn't that's why i don't back you up on it, but it's your personal private matter and i don't know how else to phrase this to you.
That's that's where i stand. I've made it so clear. I don't know why you don't understand that, how i agree you guys are normal people, but i don't agree with what you do, because i think it's weird and it makes it seem like you are those things that you're trying to act like you're, not which you Aren't probably but it paints you to be so i don't know what you want me to do when everything says you are everything says you are, and i think what you do is weird still so, like i don't understand how i can back you up on that Point, how can i back you up again? Why do you keep repeating? Because you keep it's not about backing me up, because you keep telling me i'm not backing you up when i've met you guys and i should be bringing that up. Dude, you can sit there and you can be like jason r.
I do not condone jason ours, whatever the he's doing right his, but the fact that you uh have people calling him a sexist, calling him a misogynist calling him this that all these crazy things you would think yeah a friend would say. Basically, it's not the and he's not a sexist. Look he's, not a misogynist and that's it. Okay.
I agree. I agree on your on that point. I agree on the point that i could have brought listen. I it didn't come to it didn't come to my head.
Okay, i could have easily said. Yes, i've met him and his wife, they are normal people. However, i still don't agree with his behavior and it's his own personal private thing. I don't know why, but i you know i could have said it like a shirt.
I mean i didn't i don't know like i. I didn't put that much thought into this because it doesn't involve me to that degree. I know i started tweeting guys. I would just look at it.
Okay, i can't show that to the tweet. I know you didn't. The tweet has no titties. You asked me like.
Why do i think you're, an old friend like you asked me dude yeah, i'm i'm! I still. I still don't think i'm an l friend condone what i'm doing and i don't okay yeah. I get it guys the tweets, the tweets, that's not what this is about man, it's just about the fact. Okay, okay, the tweet says the tweet says man.
I would hate to disrespect my wife by playing games with women and having them in my chat, and then it shows a picture of him at liking. Girl bubba on twitter, which is worse when it comes down to uh insecurity of the partner than having them in your chat and playing against him. Okay, i get it man, but why you have to? Why do you have to shovel bees, though the fact that i didn't come out and we're talking about being friends and in my head? If i have a, if i have my friend who i know isn't, isn't some woman hating i'd be like dude? Okay, like listen, i i understand what you're saying i understand what you're saying you're set up you're saying these people are you're, saying that i could have came at it from an angle, at least to kind of it. Okay. Well, it didn't come to my mind, so i guess i'm sorry, i don't know like no, don't no dude, you know what guys somebody's behavior, though, is, i don't know it's kind of hard, though, like this, you invited me, you want to talk. The only reason i invited you in here is because i was shocked to hear that you're calling me an l friend, because i feel like i haven't done anything wrong sure i haven't stood up for you because i don't agree with it, but i haven't talked about You so that's why i brought you in here to understand your pov um. I i don't know. I know you haven't talked about me dude, but you have done dude, i'm a.
I don't know. I don't know this is i'm more okay? That was interesting. Interesting conversation. That's interesting: we got to hear uh what you're doing makes.
I think it looks like you are a you are 100 against me on all fronts. I'm 100 against you on the behavior that you show. Yes, that's the that's the main thing for me, jason! That's the main thing for me: that's that's where it stands, though, look i i don't know, there's no way for me to support you in this, because i think that it's not it's not something. I can it's not something most people it doesn't.
I don't know it's hard to get behind man all right, hear me out. We get it, we get it target. Okay, keep telling your chat this! You can keep telling everyone you're just trying to explain to me that i'm gon na what jason r is doing say it again for the whole crowd, say it again, one more time we get it. How am i to invest in? How am i too invested guys? Misogyny is a big problem in gaming and in streaming, okay, and it's a it's a consistent problem - that's basically systematic.
It keeps happening over and over again and there's somebody in our circle, who's acting weird and being called out on it and it's an ongoing problem. That is being a live exposure. I get to look at it without looking like i'm over investigating dog dog shut the up i'm by default, invested because of what i do shut up and did all right, yeah and yeah yeah and yeah. What was that? What was it i'm just like? I said as a i said: yeah cause you're, acting like a it was just nothing to do with women you're, just acting like a what about it.
Your whole chat gets it okay, okay, but for the people who are sitting there, you so you're mad at me that i didn't bring up the fact that i didn't hang out with you and your wife. What's that you're mad, that i didn't bring up the fact that i didn't hang out with you and your wife and that you are normal people, but he's perfect. He has he's performing weird behavior or he's having weird behavior like. I don't understand what that's the angle that you're mad at me. I didn't approach it at that angle. That's what you're saying no like i attitude it's like this should be. Am i like, i feel like i'm talking to a robot like you're, not even a why? Why am i talking like a robot? What, if i, what why are you talking about coming at it at angles, coming out of that this coming out of that? Oh, i should have done this and should have done that, it's just about being a friend. It's about! Being i'm sorry, i can't back up my friend on something i don't agree with dude, that's the main line for me.
That's where i stand. That's where i'm at i'm not gon na back you up on something i don't agree with. Why would i back you up? Dude, that's what i'm trying to explain to you. I kept my mouth shut.
I never talk about you, that's my main point here and i don't understand why you can't see that. Why would i try to back you up on something that i don't agree with? Can you answer that for me, if i'm being racist on stream, if i'm being racist on stream, yeah yeah, i don't want you to back me up so then what there's a difference between being a witness of my character and backing up what i, what i'm doing There are like that, that's i'm separating those two things. Okay, i didn't. I don't want to imply that i'm backing you up either.
In that sense i get i like. I don't know, i'm you're just you're getting here and say you don't condone what i'm doing. Okay, but you could also sit there and be like jason r. I've met jason r.
I've met his wife, i hung out with him and with my girl with multiple different people with women with whatever xyz he is not.
I was so invested in this conversation, itching for the resolve I was looking for but Jason is just stretching it so far. I'm so confused, like Tarik fought hard. He has gone through every route to get his point to Jasons head but Jason is just so dumb.
I would've mald and yell half way through this conversation if I was in Tarik's position. So mad props to Tarik for being a W+ Friend
he can't be around girls because he can't be himself around them without it being weird because of his personality how is this Tarik's problem?
JasonR
Skill 1: "L Friend"
Passive: *Enchanted Ignorance*
ULTIMATE: You know my wife, you've hung out…."
Any gambas for how this ends?
1. Jason stays with wife, continues the pattern against women, – some friends, – some following
2. Jason divorces wife, stops the pattern against women, + some friends, + some following
3. ??
I don't understand how jason mind works, when there's proof of bad behavior online the best thing you can do is accept what is wrong and be concise to your circle and express an inflection point to you life.
Why do you need to rely in you friends to back you up?
also how is he using the defense of "i dont hate women, i hang out with my wife, and my friends girls" so basically hes saying "i dont hate women because I hang out with the women that im forced to hang out with" WHAT
if your wife asks you to not play with women, then she doesn't trust you to stay with her. That's her problem, but if you say you shouldn't play with women because you have a wife, then that means you don't trust yourself to stay with her. I haven't watched the full thing yet, but that doesn't sound like a healthy relationship.
Should have just admitted that he doesn't like to play with woman and no one will really be able to say anything because it's his choice not to play with them, but he trying to hide it and makes it weird instead
I don’t have time to watch through all this but did he even discuss this with his wife before he even started doing this shit??
I know this fanbase is mostly male and wont agree with me here, but im still so fed up of men being mad and pulling the "no women are being dramatic" etc etc when we (women) complain about how men treat us, then things like this where we're once again, proven to be seen as sub-human by these guys, its all these little things over and over again, reminding us how lesser we are to you
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JasonR (ex-csgo pro) doesn't play with women in games. He even banned a bunch of women in his chat. If he gets a woman on his team, he'll dodge. He claims it so he doesn't disrespect his wife. According to him, whenever there is a women in a game his chat will disrespect him, his wife and his marriage. So he decided he can't play games with women. There are a lot of people now calling him misogynistic.
He got into an argument with Tarik (inactive csgo pro), telling him he was a bad friend for not defending him when people called him misogynistic. They've been friends for years, and Tarik has met his wife. JasonR's whole argument was Tarik must know he is not misogynistic because he has met him before, so he should defend him when people call him sexist. Tarik didn't agree, and was arguing what he is doing is sexist. You can check Tarik's vods for the whole thing.
Imagine entering a public lobby and being like "no, I don't want to play with half the people here" and then have a bunch of spergs say "there is nothing wrong with not wanting to play with a woman."
First off, it's weird as fuck. It just is.
Second, go to a private server then. The game has public lobbies, you can't and shouldn't regulate who you get. If someone is toxic, be it male or female, sure, avoid them, but otherwise, you are showing that you cannot think of women as anything other than sexual objects.
" But chat makes it weird" dude chat ALWAYS makes it weird, that is the weakest excuse.
Also I can NOT say how much I respect Tarik for being someones friend but still saying "i heavily dont agree with you", like jasons take that friends needs to agree on things is weird, too many people turn a blind eye to terrible things people do just cos theyre friends, like I mad respect him standing up to him
Jason "why wold you allow people in your chat to call me a woman hater"
Tarik literaly bans his name so people don't talk bad about his friend
Jason "Why would you ban my name in your chat?!? L Friend"
YOU CAN'T WIN