We did a past version of this episode about a year ago. Go check out that episode and mel. You got something to say to our audience. Yes, so we're getting a lot of questions asking.

How can we bring middle ground to our college campus? Oh remember we watched this a long time ago. Oh this did it did it did it chad? I guess i do not watch this video chat. This guy got so mauled. He made a video calling me out about my reaction to him hi.

My name is tim. I'm not even kidding dude. I work on environmental justice, social justice, housing, justice and incarceral state issues. My name is christiana hurt, i'm the owner of the seven figure brand, wealthy college kid and i'm 24 years old.

My name is, graham i'm a real estate agent, real estate investor and youtuber. My name is beatrice. This is a short video, i'm 21 and i am a target worker. My name is brett knutson.

I am an entrepreneur and an investor. My name is tierra lucky and i am a minimum wage worker. The first prompt is minimum wage workers and millionaires interesting. I worked for everything i earned, so i grew up with two parents that were basically paycheck to paycheck and none of them had any extra money.

It was by seeing my parents struggle like that that i really realized the value of money, so i basically poured everything i had into my work. There were years. I would say four years that i didn't have any friends from 18 to 22. It was just me, and i was working from probably 8 a.m until midnight uh working as a real estate agent.

I completely agree. I think that what a lot of people discount it's all the sacrifice, i just feel like everybody, went through the middle. I eventually went to the middle unless they they inherited everything or whatever, if they, if they, if they did something that led up to them, they still earned it. I didn't go to parties, don't really honestly have like a ton of friends and it's not like a sacrifice where i was like.

I'm gon na have no friends, but you can only balance so many plates or you drop everything and the plate that i chose to give up was not the social. What is that another degree? What is that another degree? Why does it not agree guys otherwise you're working you're working backwards, you're, you're you're? It's it's! It's odd, you're, working with it with a difference like um uh. It's guys! It's weird there's a lot of labor and communal effort that goes into getting all of us here that we don't get paid for that. Other people don't get paid for the examples that you two gave are perfect.

Actually, you both earn your money by extracting value from capital transactions. You know, you're, not building the house. You're selling you're not out there working like in a slave mine, pulling selenium out of the earth like some people on this planet are, and we have to re-understand what it means to earn money and how we all interact to do that. How would you address yes, this isn't church i feel like this is like a little bit a little bit of delusion like uh like uh.

What is it called again, social socialism minds guys at the end of the day in a capitalistic system, if somebody thinks about doing something in a strategy, it's like work, smarter, not harder type of thing. If some guy organizes a a scheme where they buy a house and then they they flip it, and then they sell it. You know they don't build it guys. It is extracting value if you start a company from the ground and then you build it that that that's worth an amount of money for somebody, but no one does that.

I have raised money before yeah, but i've also started companies that i didn't raise money for. How would you finance them by working a part-time retail job for minimum wage and then saving up and then putting it in? I have felt judged for my income level. I think it's part of general society. We are always judging each other.

Having used snap points before, like standing in a grocery store using the card that i've gotten for the government to pay for food and feeling the people behind me thinking, that's something that you haven't earned or gotten has somebody ever asked you to use your snap on Them i mean i have generally there's not that much to go around it's the same mentality when it's a dollar versus snap. Somebody could still ask me to share. Well you get it. Why can't you help me out what she said what she said? What snap? I didn't step forward because me personally, i surround myself with people that just like, what's in my bank, account just doesn't matter to the people that are around me.

I do think a lot of judgment towards how much you make reflects on, like your dating experience that i i do feel see. I've never had that because i'm so frugal. If there are girls that are out there who want me for my money like they should know, i'm probably like the cheapest person out there. I, i literally will wait like 9 00 p.m for happy hour to start just so, i get the happy hour menu.

So i would be like i would be like the last person, any sort of like gold digger would want yeah. I find myself in situations with these boys that have no job, no, nothing, and i end up taking on these charity cases of relationships. Oh, why? Don't you put him on or build him up and he's like you can't build yeah, it's not go to bear. I mean you can i i mean i've met guys.

I've dated that you know go on to have successful business, always talking about like stuff. That's like it's from the implementation. Oh you want to date somebody equal or greater, but then you don't want to be materialistic about like well. I only date, people with money, because i make money out like outliers like their outliers, can become rich.

If you work hard enough uh, not really so i just think that anyone could become rich if they actually like believed in themselves and took the risk to actually believe in themselves that there is some success. At the end of the line of that, i feel like a lot of it, comes down to mindset first and really having the belief that you can do that. I know. For me, one of my biggest concerns was, i didn't, have any skills whatsoever.

I had like a 2.0 gpa in high school, like it was terrible. I had such bad grades, but i really turned that into a positive and i really believe this actually happened for a reason, because now i could pursue something else, which is real estate, because that didn't require a college degree and looking back now. That was the best thing that had ever happened. This is an anecdotal, though yeah you guys, because it's more so it says everybody, but some people, some people have to care for their family and and they they they will weighing them down.

Sort of and they're literally just just surviving it they can't they literally don't have enough time on resources. That's like really stupid because they spawned with not enough tools to thrive. They only spawn with enough tools. If they pop off to survive situations, anyone can become like rich and because i don't think, that's completely true.

A lot of people can, if they have like connections and stuff, you know but feel like. Sometimes people like they work, two jobs, or sometimes they have other things going on. They have to pay their needs first, they don't always have like money for that. You know because, like my dad he's like a landscape worker, he has tried making his own company and it doesn't always like work out.

He has tried hard, okay, okay, even though i always agree with you that it's a lot of luck. Luck: luck is a huge role in society uh. I i i will not be a a apologist or agreer of somebody who doesn't put their name in any hat. Who has no chance of being drawn from that luck? Who puts no effort into being in a pot that they can be drawn from and then complaining they're not being drawn or then somebody will be drawn? That's just not i'm not i'm not going to go over that.

It's that's. That's why i think it's like you have to have connects. You know that's. Why do you mind if i interject yeah yeah in terms of building connections? I didn't have any connections either when it comes to yeah, exactly like the lottery.

Exactly life is the lottery you you're you're. You partake in dozens of lotteries every single day right. Are you going to complain that you're not wearing the the lotteries? Because you don't you don't buy any tickets in any lotteries and i'm saying i'm not saying the lottery lottery, i'm saying the lotteries of life, you don't buy any tickets, you can't complain, you're, not winning it. It is it's working in real estate and what i did to make the connections is, they went to open houses every single sunday for months, and i probably met at least 50 or 60 real estate agents, and it was through that that i met one agent, who Was really gracious like, for example, if yo, if you always show up on time to work, let's say right, right, right and then uh boom and then one one day show up on time and your boss is like yo somebody just quit today.

Somebody just quit today and - and we need this position in the job right, i need somebody and you're there boom. He hires you now you triple their income or something like that. Some quick people say so lucky, so they are right. They are right that you got lucky but they're also wrong, because you you you were, you were prone to be lucky, you you, you put your name somewhere that could be drawn and they didn't that's just kind of how it is, though, it's enough to say, if You want to come work underneath me, i'm happy to do that, and it was like connection which you know, like you mentioned connection, that i met that person through just really kind of putting myself out there to meet people, there's a lot of institutional and systemic barriers That we aren't really talking about if you walk into like a beverly hills - 5 million dollar house, not speaking english they're, probably not going to give you the like hookup.

We don't tend to move within circles where those connections cross economic and socioeconomic clients. But even beyond that, i want to say, like you took a big risk and your risk paid off. But what if your risk hadn't paid off and that's for a lot of people who do try and start their own business to try and start their own youtube channel? That risk doesn't pay off and there's no real safety net there. So we're not really getting an adequate side of people who have like taken that entrepreneurial risk and not been able to take it again.

I'm almost worried it becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy, though. If you go in it fearing oh, what am i going to fail and that becomes your main focus? I think more people are less likely to take risks actually needed to succeed because they're more focused on not failing. If that makes sense yeah. I think your beliefs create the level of action you take and the level of action you take determines your results and it is cyclical.

I am not obligated to give to the less fortunate um is i actually one of the missions in my organizing is getting away from this kind of notion. Okay, the problem itself is is true, though, the prompt itself, the prompt itself, nothing obligates, you we have, but you can have self obligations, though, at the same time like i still give people money when i have extra change in my pocket. So i don't want to seem like i'm totally opposed to it. I agree with that.

I've given people money and not gotten it back. I've given people money and they've wasted it on drugs. Why did i even give you the money to begin with, if you weren't going to use it to better yourself? Is it my job to make sure that you're not going hungry? No, we no see she's she's running about this. If, if you give money - and they it up, that's kind of on them right, but you, if you you, give it's it's all it's it's not it's.

If you want, is that exactly what you have plenty of you know, organizations that will make sure that you're eating you give this on you they up. That's kind of you have to fall on my shoulders per se. I feel like there's nobody obligated to give to the unfortunate it's always the mindset of like yeah, so don't take the results say: oh dude. If i give they're gon na waste it on drugs, dude settle down, settle down, they don't money, don't be don't be.

So guess what i have no money currently to give don't be so, but i have like my morality. I have my goodness about me. You know i i'm just trying to build a community, especially when you have a group of people and that is creative and supportive. You build faster than just by yourself, i i don't always donate with money, sometimes i'll go and i'll fill bags of food for kids that are starving.

You know what i mean, so it doesn't always have to be money like. I don't think it's our responsibility to give money based off of what we think the person is going to do with it like that's on them. If they choose to use it wrongly, it's our responsibility just to be generous. I am not afraid.

Okay, but as somebody who has a lot of money, though, the the the value that money when they give does a way bigger impact, sometimes than than than filling a bag. I i think, or one of both to spoil myself, i personally do spoil myself. I work hard to be able to go into a store and get something for myself about a four thousand dollar hairless cat that i had genetically made and when i was in high school, when i started making money i went and got that cat. You know when you're in middle school and everybody's hitting puberty and getting taller a hairless cat, that's a rat.

What did i do when i started making money? I went and bought boobs like that's what i wanted and you know, there's the controversy of like you're gon na die from your implants like i'll die a d cup, and i have no problem with it. Okay, interesting so i i rarely ever treat myself. I basically keep my spending at the same as when i was like you know, 19 or 21., no matter how much money i make. I spend the exact same amount.

For instance, it sounds crazy, but when i was like 17 i wanted a lamborghini and there was nothing i wanted more. I want to be that guy 18 years old and pull up with a lambo like that was my dream, but when i actually got the money to go and buy the car all of a sudden, i realized like wait a second, it's stupid, i'm not going to Get the car i'm going to invest it in real estate instead, but then i'm going to wait and then i'm going to get the lamborghini and then you save up even more and then you realize wait. Lambo is still stupid. Let me go and you know, invest it and even now, like the chase and ambition of getting something is way more fun and enjoyable than actually getting that thing.

I don't really spoil myself because i always buy it. I'm totally wrong. Actually, i usually wait to like my next check to see if i have extra money and if i do then i spoil myself, but if i don't then i just i don't. I think it's interesting also that almost all of us have associated spoiling ourselves with spending money and, at the same time, spending that money is very unfulfilling.

It's weird because even myself, like, i really just like having an f off day, and i just hang out and don't do anything and have any responsibilities. But i don't think about it as spoiling myself, even though that's my favorite time to spend myself guys but dude buying a bike buying a box popsicle any popsicle. I that makes me really happy had more money. That makes me really happy for me.

I think it's always a comfort thing, knowing that i have a little bit more saved up or invest cars cool, but a popsicle though, if you're just chilling after a date and you're just chilling in the bed and you're eating a popsicle. That's tough and i think it could just be a psychological thing that no matter how much money i have it's always psychologically never going to be enough, because that becomes your new normal. So i think you're always chasing that see. I want more money so that i can pay off like my debt and travel and like help help some family members, and that's it that's why i mean that's.

Why i want money, i mean i don't want to be like well, nobody would say no to more than like. I just wanted for my needs, you know or just for like a car, because i need a car, you know or just stuff. My family needs stuff. My friends need, i think, for me, if i'm honest with myself, it's getting further away from how broke.

I was because i'm scared of that ever happening again. There is no end because of that uh. So, of course, everyone could always use more money, like i've met, billionaires. Who could definitely say that they would want more money.

But more. I want to see society in which the money that we have doesn't determine all of our possibilities, because it seems like when we talk about solving problems. It comes back to money. My utopian vision is like a society where money, really you guys, you guys said when i say utopia, andy right and ideals that are like kind of kind of far he's.

My utopian vision is like a society where money really doesn't matter, because we don't really need it to figure out value, but it makes a good translation. This guy, this guy has uh, has ideals that i don't agree with, but you know what you know what he at least he's he's rooted in reality and says utopia and he's actually out there by his idea. I don't like that. I'll tell you all about that.

I don't like that thanks so much for watching this episode of middle ground, guys we love having different people this time around. Just i don't want somebody who has ideals or ideologies right that are still rooted in reality and not in some fantasy. I can agree with that.