Racism, we are seeking revolution revolution. We brought soldiers and capitalists together a spy dog about okay. This is a good video right yeah. This is this could be a good discussion right holy how about we watch some jubilee so that we can have a chat.

Then maybe you can also pause the video yeah. It says: yeah economic, economic system, basis of the means of production and operation by wikipedia you'll, really like it. My name is liberty, i'm studying psychology at ucla, i'm 20 years old, i'm sean i'm 24 years old and i am in the socialist party, my name's mimi uh 2016. I was the socialist party's presidential candidate uh, i'm shea and i'm with the socialist party and i'm 28..

My name is jack. I'm 19.! I go to community college. My name is richard 19.. I go to cal state long beach as a chemistry major with a music minor.

Can i get my social media music in my capitalist thanks for the entertainment xqcl humans are inherently selfish. Absolutely 100! Oh, come on you guys. I guess every should go to the middle. This guy's, this is unequivocally true.

Okay, that's, that is what it is. Selfishness is sort of one word for it, but looking out for yourself, your own survival and your own gain um, and of course, that includes the gain of those. You love is one of the main motivators of people, a really good way that we could figure out guys guys. That's just that's that's just nature.

Just it's not even it's not up to a debate, though, have you seen somebody because if they say something, the movie was people, people drown and the coast guard, go save them a human nature and they don't give a about the others or whatever right. They're, like like stomach people, not not the drowning like that and they're like and then everybody's lives around them. It is comparing it to animal nature and stuff like that, and you see you know animals doing whatever they can to survive. It's just culture that has changed us, but i believe at its core that yes, humans, just like any other animal, are selfish, true and my experience of working with people who haven't been acculturated or even in uh into this idea that they need to be selfish.

All the time are generally not. Every organism has to have a sense of like getting resources for itself in order to survive, but that's much different than being selfish. I think i mean i think, even if you want yours with children dude, the children are not even fully developed they're. Not even that's just not true, though guys it doesn't call the early stage of development in a child, their brain isn't fully fused up.

Yet it's. I mean if you look at if you spend any time on the social democracy you know. Let's say you go to norway and you spend time there where the people see um the collective good uh as tied into their own personal well-being. You know, i think we have so many examples like that: society's working collectively toward a greater good, the thing about the nordic countries.

In my videos - it's not that you're. It's not that your brain isn't exposed to society. Yet is that your brain is even developed to have the tools to even understand society, yet dumb it you're not even you're, not gon na delegate at the capacity. My opinion is well since they're very, very ethnically homogeneous.

They all have very, very similar culture. It's not an accurate representation of you know what humans inherently are, because i believe that culture can mask human nature, so you think that diversity would work against working in harmony toward a collective good in diversity. We have different ideas of what good is. I think competition brings out the best in people um, here's my take.

I agree, but i also disagree. It brings the best and the worst of people. It's a double-edged sword. It's a super double edge.

It's almost almost even in how bad and good, especially when you know we're competing for something like. Let's try to create this compound that could help you know the masses in some kind of health relation form. You have all these research labs, trying to figure out. What's the most efficient way to figure out this process, what's the most efficient way to do this, i think we need more of that sort of sense of competition, especially in the sciences and whatnot.

You know we frequently hear about the evils of monopolies. It's because you know with when you control an entire market. Why even bother being better at anything, you've got no competition. You've got nothing to strive for, and no one can choose anything else.

I agree with you both on the examples that you gave, but the thing that i'm kind of struggling with i mean: if we're talking about efficiency quality, then yeah. I think it brings out the best in people, but then again it tends to bring about greed. What that's, what you all do is such a great service. It's it's a trip to me because, as you're likely aware that there's this growing support for socialism, an economic system that places uh people over profit that you're willing to continue to throw out the same talking points that have failed people so miserably again.

It's a benefit to us and i guess we should say thank you nice. If you care about something, if you're passionate about something you don't need the threat of someone doing it better than you to do the best that you can do ask any creative competition leads less to excellence and more towards i'm, going to go ahead and be a Hard disagree. It's just it's just it's just by nature! It's about nature! If you're competitive, if you're somebody who's submitted it and you want you want you want, you want to do better. You'll, always look around you and see and see.

What's going on due to improvement, it's a nature of competition. You can't you can't break that. You can't change doing whatever you can to edge past the other person. Today, everyone has the opportunity for success, not everyone.

29.. All right! If we're talking about the united states and we're talking about financial success, then yes, i would believe so, if we're talking about the world, it doesn't necessarily have to mean financial well-being or like stability. I think that it: okay, okay, chad, if you don't, if, if you don't, if you don't take, take this topic to the next level and you bring it to the very core of it, that is success. I agree yes yeah, but it depends what your version.

It depends what your mindset is on. What success is a lot a lot of it, and people want to epic in society right now. People have successes, is uh having a having a lot of money, having a lot of money being being secured. Having a fam like the whole thing, but success can mean a lot of other things, though, and how you're okay with yourself - and you know you make a goal and you pursue your goal.

What, if you fail? That's exactly what i was thinking. I find that there are so many resources out there that you can enact on it's just there's some people who just don't do anything about it. My first thought yes, is the rich guy? No, it's not it's not like that, though you know, you see, see. You're still you're so you're so rooted into your version of what success is you forget that it's not only about money? Money money is like um, it's how you perceive success, but there's so many things before money, equal success as a concept, if you, if you your your goals, being your community and helping others and and and growing your community and making sure people are cared for and You're in your neighborhood or your city, and you put all your resources and all your time into creating an infrastructure that helps others import your time and you see results you see like you're helping your peers and people that were in the same problems as you are.

Are growing and are evolving? You have success, you're, not a billionaire you're, not a role; you're, not you're, not a millionaire right, but for the goals you're trying to achieve you're, reaching the success that you want and for you, your version of success is what success is because everybody's success is different And the problem is that yo, you keep compare people keep comparing their version of what success is coming to what people deem as just because overall and they get lost in this. This weird mist, man, it's it's not it's a problem. You got ta be kidding me uh, you know um, so many people in this country who solely because they exist uh they're under threat. It doesn't come like this.

This comes like that. It's through you know the police they're just trying to survive. So everyone's very different. Again, everyone has different opportunities to what they can even consider success in in the us, though, there are a lot of opportunities for most people, though, of course you can't say all, and there are always those who are extremely unfortunate and should be happy, i'm sure everyone Else is sad: some people are unsuccessful as a multi-millionaires, and some people are extremely successful as broke people.

That's how it is a restaurant before a starbucks. Those people work their asses off any of these low income. Jobs are not easy and they they work for pennies. If you're, if you're, if your dad had a hundred million dollars right, any any dies right or whatever, and you inherit a hundred million or it gives you a hundred million dollars right and you go around making businesses right and you keep failing and you go from 100 million 50 mil you're right you're, a multi-millionaire.

You have 50 million dollars to your name, you're extremely unsuccessful you, you are you're really you all. You do is you're just going downwards and you're only losing it and you're only failing it. How are you successful? You didn't, do you didn't, do produce, create or thrive in any way, shape or form. You are actively unsuccessful and somebody who's out there, who's broke who's caught who's, doing something good out of its means, who's doing more of an impact that money can do for him and with his resources he's very successful.

He is achieving a lot of success. What he has it has to do with money. Nothing goes wrong with their car they're done. You know if they have a health problem.

They're done you're talking about financial success, though success is extremely relative and can be defined in many different ways in a capitalist society that wasn't financial success, the most important thing. No, i i've worked in the food industry for a number of years and i serve them. I need to live a good life. That's not what success is what you're so tied.

This is brick mindset that dollar sign equals a success. Dude. It's not, though, cannot say that any one of them success companions was ever isn't surviving or living or not dying or going to school. On top of that, you know so they're they're working full-time and on top of that they're going to school and they're paying school.

I would consider that successful if you can go to school and you can maintain your gpa and you can also be working a part-time job and somehow affording your school yeah you're doing well in life. Society should help the underprivileged. You see what so they should help them with religion. Underprivileged may, of course, to some degree, absolutely 100, give a man a fish, etc holds true um, and also who should do the helping and how was very important, not all acts of service success is freedom and food.

That is no success. I myself you're lost. You know i'm sorry to use a personal anecdote here, but i've personally dealt with the fact that oh giving someone this much aid they become. My father is an alcoholic.

So we, since due to an injury in his leg, he gets ssi and what's and what ends up happening is he receives enough ssi to the point? Where he's not he's not motivated to do anything else beyond just going home drinking a beer or something like that, and i think yes, people should help people, especially if they're under under privilege, or they need the resources to push them. But to what end this anecdotal, i feel like i feel like um. Yes, there will always be problems. People that abuse the system or people excuse people that end up being unmotivated, because the system helps them.

But a lot of people need and depend on the aid of government programs, and it helps them propel themselves and go further. And for the majority of i i i assume for the majority of people that have goals that is like the fuel to their machine. That's how it is. That's, that's the fine.

There will be data outliers. The only part that covers the small demographic of the of the alcoholic most of the people that that another example you guys have brought up has been specifically about people who are particularly poor when most of the country is middle, lower middle class and up. That's. That's.

Actually, that's not a fact, but that you would focus on this in a in a city, one that gives more than half of its budget to the police in a country that just passed a military bill, a spending bill. That's almost one trillion dollars that money goes to defense contractors. Government paying for things is not capitalism, but we're in a capitalist system. Uh uh, where the government pays huge amounts of money, you're talking yeah, i'm not in favor of those things how about? Instead of spending the money in the military, how about putting those back into basic needs? Healthcare, education, housing? I agree the government taking our taxpayer dollars and funneling it into they're, paying for things that the military explicitly says that they don't need.

That's not. Capitalism is about prices and transparency and and yeah guys, you guys saying true. I understand this is this is an ideal, but if you're in a certain place at a certain time in a certain system, you try to go to the to the other place. You can't just make the jump overnight whatever it has to be.

You have to progress there and saying: oh just reinvest everything in there in in military and put in this there's gon na be a lot of impacts and a lot of things that can happen from that voices. This is actually bigger than problems. That is not what that might be, what you call capitalism, but when i come here saying i'm a capitalist, i'm not saying i'm in favor of that profit and ethics are opposing motives, so i think it's core to profit uh. You have to exploit uh and again there is nothing.

I disagree without exploitation. Yeah i mean i can't think i i'm really having trouble thinking of a situation where i disagree entirely. Someone could profit off of something without exploitation being in the mix, and i just i got to pick if you, if, if, if you go to the woods and you minimum wage jobs due to my talents, not being valued by society, i think this is a discussion Of what matters more guys does? What's your finances? Yes, if you take a piece of wood and you go chop it with a five dollar axe and - and you make a nice sculpture and somebody wants to buy it for 20 bucks, even though you paid five for your actual dude profit, and it's it's still. It's still i'm running out of time.

If you're running a business - and you know you're you're the one up top, you would obviously walk away with more money. If you pay your employees a little bit less, i think that profit and ethics can be intertwined when seen with the corporate social responsibility module when they treat their employee. You exploited the tree, it's better, they give them more benefits, they raise their wages and, in turn it motivates the workers to work harder and treating your employees better than is not necessarily ethical like raising the quality does not mean that you've raised it to a sufficient Standard of of treatment, because, if you're paying someone less than a living wage, that is unethical all i'm saying is, it is, to some degree more ethical and can be seen as more ethical to be beating competition by raising the wages of your employees and giving them Better benefits also one must be paid slightly less than they are making in worth for a company for it to be worth it to hire them at all. If you can't pay your employee, the minimum amount of money that they need in order to live uh, you have no business being in business um and, i think also okay, guys, even though this guy makes sense in in a ideal society.

The problem is that is that um, the uh i'm i'm lying, i said so, there's a tendency from the conservative side. This is you talking away from sort of objective fact. I mentioned the mit living wage calculator right, yes, um! That's a scientific model that 29.25. So as an inflation, minimum wages, uh a cost of life, there's no there's a lot of things that that infrastructure thinks that they can help that they don't it's not adopted to the people.

But, of course, the people are going to go minimum all the time if they want to fix it. If you can't afford to pay your employee a living wage, that's just the minimum that they need in order to live right, uh get the out of business. Why are we even talking to you when you have all the facts and we don't know anything? I don't know it's hardly worth my time. Well, we would sure it's hard to really lean towards one side or the other if everyone is just sort of guys, if everybody, if every company paid people enough money that they can live, there would not be a single shop open in new york and in l.a.

Nobody would nobody would have any businesses it'd be a desert. Okay, okay, these places, the cause of life, is insane. The price of rent is out the it's ridiculous. Okay, there's absolutely no shot that they made a living wage.

What we'll be at living waging in l.a like 26 dollars an hour? Wasn't this all of you? No business would ever make profit. What the you're losing your mind, there's stating all these coherent biases and not exiting any sort of thing from any other particular side, which is why i'm sort of just i'm trying to understand your side and i'm trying to unders grasp really my side of it. That's the issue, but that's not up to the business owners, though uh. How is it up to the it? What is wrong with you going back to sort of that mutual understanding? We do next.

That sort of mutual understanding needs to be there. If, if we're going to ever continue to see what's best for for the us, i think one reason why you know you often see like folks on the left. Exactly there should be regulation and the infrastructure should make it so people can't be selfish, because people are selfish, people will pay minimum wage increase minimum wage, that's just how it is. If, if if the place you live at is is unbelievable, western wage increase in minimum wage just a certain amount today, people can actually live and buy groceries and have a roof over the head, but the people themselves the biz.

They will never be not selfish, socialist, communist anarchists or et cetera, uh, there's always living in utopia. You live in a perfect world, you know: where are you living seeing uh the suffering and the oppression and the exploitation the racism etc? You sort of feel this urgency. You know like we're constantly under sort of this self-criticism and self-reflection about like well. How do you package what can be complex ideas into ways that are very palatable and that's me every hour and i think like, if there's a failure on the left, that would be one of them.

I wish that, rather than having an agenda that we try to prove and we see ourselves as winning by convincing the opponent, i wish that we could consider winning as finding the middle ground and finding where we're similar and finding the truth. I think, if you're in the pursuit of truth, then you've won contrary to convincing other people that you're right what you know, despite that, we definitely disagree on pretty much everything. It's good to know the the real common ground here is we as like, millennials and gen, z and stuff we're actually we're actually like talking about this, like whether we were able to convince the other side of anything or not. At least we give a about it.

You know this is stuff that we need to talk about. This is stuff that we need to be aware of, especially giving our leaders so yeah sure i reckon i'm doing that. Okay, that was interesting. Video, yes, so mauled at big companies making money when they create thousands of jobs, uh touch grass yeah.

I will i'll go ahead and touch you guys, i'm out of touch. If somebody, if somebody once has an idea and build a company from the ground up and has all these ideas and is innovating and is smart and in for - and this is insane crazy right - what they should get is nothing more than the guy who shows up And signed inside and just just clocks in and clocks out, you're right dude shall be paid the same. There's a legacy should make more because when, above and beyond take more risk, he shouldn't if it actually should be paid less, because if the living wage is higher than the revenues, they should give his organs to the to the workers. It dude i'm giving you guys everything yeah, because that guy right holy.

What is this utopianism tonight give me you.