I'm just going to go with it right. People, people are just don't make dollars, don't make sense to the industry, my boy, they don't sign. Why so judgmental? Well, i'm just mental, because you're trying hard the way, the way they're trying to award their things. They're they're still holding on it's kind of like you're, pulling both you're not like trying you're still pulling both sides.

You know this makes more sense to me, so i'm just going to go with it right. People are just don't make dollars, don't make sense to the industry, my boy, they don't sign unless it make money in streams and if it's good and it streams they sign it. Why does everyone in these videos seem like actual non-player characters in the bethesda game? A hip-hop misogynistic spectrum jubilee, let's watch first reason: oh no hot takes is it's going to be brutal. Black rappers are often better than other races wow.

I think it's a racist point of view to say that, like that there it is often better. There are so many dope rappers that are black. There are so many dope wrappers that are not black, like, i don't think the color of your skin deter, i'm not i'm not the same thing. German's your penmanship skill, so much of the narratives that built and burst.

Hip-Hop is also what built in birth, black community and black folk if you're black and you come from that and that's your struggle and it's your story and it connects with the history of being. You know, um oppressed, then you will always have that advantage. You know from the from the viewers standpoint you know, but i wouldn't say just because of like you know, being black makes you well better. Well, the question looked objective about the statistics so, but but then to not respect how he's marketing himself and how he's big himself up.

You know using the tools at his disposal, but he's just leveraged it in such a smart way, like. I think that's so important to remember that, like what was the question huh better, i like little nonsense to not respect how he's marketed himself and how he's bigged himself up. You know using the tools at his disposal, but he's just leveraged it in such a smart way, like. I think, that's so important to remember that, like hip-hop was never about like just.

Are you the nicest with a penny music? It was just like yo. Do you do you make things that people enjoy? No, i agree with everything being said. You know as another queer rapper who does a lot of gender bending and stuff like that. I think little nasdaq's open up a lane for other rappers alike that are can thrive.

Now, because of that in the mainstream memo had old town road, i thought it was about the music, though not about the the way. The way things are marketed or whatnot in the car when he was driving having a couple of songs, because the songs are vibes, though like uh dude dude, even when it's not all that i still did today, i was listening to holly in the crashes it's banger. Having a couple of songs on soundcloud does not make you a rapper, i didn't consider myself a rapper until i started making real money off that. So i mean for me you're a rapper.

If you rap, you could have no songs out and yeah yeah you could. You could have nothing written anywhere. You could have nothing, you could still be a rapper. If you rap you a rapper.

That's the way that i see it then you're on the wrong side. Yeah you're on the head, you're gon na, be over here. Oh my fault, this guy heart have been resonating with hip-hop and you've, been writing your whole life and building that just for yourself and you're, a rapper hey, but not everybody on soundcloud did that. I agree you can have just a couple of songs on soundcloud and totally be a rap and ass rapper, but you could also have a couple of songs and you put no time into them and then you know it's not enough for me.

One click randomly. What did he say me? I shouldn't have smoked. I got caught in mouth like a yeah. I can't even lie really, though you should have shared, but yeah yeah, it's okay to call women and lyrics yeah.

Two one go. I strongly agree. Oh come on. The reason i agree is because i think you should know whatever the lyrics.

You know what i'm saying like if you're okay, to stand on what you say then stand on it and say it. You know yeah, it shouldn't be censored. It's just like again, you asked the question: do we think it's okay? They think it's okay with the consequences, if you say something, that's messed up talk about like if you got a white person, you know what i mean like right. You know, god.

I can't guys my take is that it was lost innocent other people. Don't paint me as a bad guy for this. It's not why that doesn't. Look like his rapper name.

It's not an evil thought. Okay, i promise it's not it's not um. I i feel, like the word, isn't uh a slur and it can go a lot of ways. It's a big umbrella of why it's used uh, how it's used and what it's meant to describe and the way that people interpret it um.

Some people, like being being called a a oh yeah. Oh yeah, i'm a nasty ass, oh yeah, i'm i'm a crazy, come out hoe. You know uh, it's it. I i only has to do with with girl and the only negative way can interpret it.

I feel like i feel, like locking in this one box or this one string of the word or the umbrella that says it's only towards women and uh this one and uh this characteristic and that it's like, i feel like it's a it's a it's a dishonest And a missed portrayal of the word and its usage and it feels like kind of agenda i feel like the word is fine and is sometimes is used, maliciously just use with caution and and moderate with caution. Then i got ta deal with the concept. That's all! That's cause you got ta stand on what you say. You know i feel like the culture we're in it's like that's just like the type of people you're around like girls like yo, you don't, you should ever call a woman.

Is beautiful because love it. When you call them beautiful that you know what i mean like they'd be hyping each other up. I don't like girls to be like yo. You know like the culture we in it's like that's just like the type of people you'll be around like girls to be like yo, you that, like drop, that you know what i mean like they'd, be hyping each other up.

I don't think it's ever like in such a disrespectful way. I guess it's kind of like it's like a filler word kind of it can't be, but, like hey, we'll be a better writer, then you know don't like don't don't rely on it. This is just the words you want me. I definitely don't remember on anything, but it's just like yeah.

Don't get the point across this guy just stopped, no! No stop it, but i think in a larger scheme of things, the majority of times, where i'm hearing the word and rap and hip hop is the great degrade women. You know all the filler words the people that people use with all the other terms, with everything that people use as bad words as filler words, you're you're gon na nitpick and be mad at no shut up. You just go line after line, and it's just like yo. These don't trust these hoes like it's.

Just like it's not like a yeah, i'm up lifting my it's like there's, not a lot of that, but i do think it's important or - and i think it's important as creatives of any genre, to understand that our music exists beyond ourselves. So our intention is not always going to be received. The way that we think it is like. I don't think any of us in here are being like yo.

I hate women or, like i'm, trying to be bad to women, but i don't know right, but i think that that the question is like what does okay mean? What it comes down to for me is like just personally i'm not gon na put that in my records, i'm not gon na put that in my music. In my mind, that's dope, i mean, like you know, word work. Thank you. You know for anyone whatever you want to do is dope, in my opinion, for any artist.

If you want to say some up, i think we need crazy people to say crazy. Sometimes, like you know, uh dance with the devil. I said one of the first things: okay, so yeah. We can all agree that that's the whole, that's one of the hardest songs of hip-hop history right, but i think we can also agree as much as i agree.

Sort of with the take that that art art can be like a lot of ways, crazy, doesn't have to be always offensive or or include what he's talking about is not right, but i think the culture needs and needs the ability to let people express themselves. So we have, you know like these big so or else it would be too. I don't know it'd be too bland, it's hard to rap about something like it's pre-malone other than money, sex or drugs. I don't know it'd be too bland.

It's hard to rap about something other than money, sex or drugs. Three two one go disagree, rap about what you want to rap about, like i think, you're you're limited as an artist if you're gon na say, like those are the only things that i'm out there, and that would be. That would be stupid if you want to rap about that. That's fine, too.

That's the only reason i'm over here, because it's not hard, it's definitely not hard, but i think it's what people want to hear. You know it's like if you want to get in this industry and make a successful living off of it at a certain point, you got to say what the people want to hear. You know what i'm saying like everyone. Okay, some of these takes.

I don't want money, everybody want to have said everybody does have sex a lot of people. Do drugs and or they've been impacted by drugs. So i think it's just inevitable that it comes out a lot. You know what i mean, but yeah i mean i just completely disagree with the the question right because i think, like we've been talking about little nauseas old town, road is just i don't.

Even you know it's just a western song and then, like, i think, there's so many lanes right now that even if you're looking for success memo like how did those people, how did those people come up, though they didn't come up? Talking about all that spiritual, woke, jay cody, what what do you want? Music talk, a lot about about that and people people receive that that that stuff doesn't mean that others aren't successful like it's. Not it's not uh. I don't know it's what's going on for me. Dude i'm out people come up, though they didn't come up.

Talking about all that spiritual, woke, j cole didn't come out talking about that woke, he couldn't actually jacob might have no jake jake jacob might have yeah take home myself. He definitely did, and success is also such a spectrum of what the hell does that mean success like the one percent of artists that are making millions of dollars per feature, or also completely eating and living and paying all your bills that you need to and also Got some money to vacate and pay for the album, but you know fans and have fans and have a sustainable career right, and that way you absolutely can be successful in having a niche market. I mean i'm doing it right now. Three two one go uh.

I just stay in the middle. I i just stay in the middle just because, just because i'd go to someone agree and then i could find an argument for me to be somewhat disagree and it'd be i'd, be, like spanish, goes around the yellow line. To be honest, there are a ton of misogynistic artists, misogynistic lyrics, misogynistic songs, misogynistic practices, there's a ton of work to be done in terms of like what that narrative and how we influence people to to think and not to think. But i can't say that the whole culture is misogyny.

I mean we're all hip-hop all of us here right, i'm not a misogynist. So i, whenever i hear like a question about hip-hop, i always think about what most def said in 99 on black on both sides. Right he said you know people ask me most how's hip-hop doing like it's a giant living up in the mountain like it's some creature and he's like hip-hop is the people you know. I do think that it's a problematic question, though, because why are you singling out hip-hop for that? You know, i think the world is misogynistic.

I think that country music is misogynistic. Absolutely, when do we start making the choices? Individuals look for that to seek out to not even just be complicit that take had good and bad in it. I think the ending was pretty good and oh well, that's just how it is. We also have to make that extra effort to bring them around.

We as gatekeepers our own communities, we're our own genres and our own. You know cities, we have to be the ones to move forward and until we do that, no no he's right in the sense that um. It's always like this, though dude like, like the elites like cool, big, ass, famous and a rich yeah. They want to have like a bunch.

You know like bunch of a bunch of hoes yeah man. They want, they want to be a player, they want it. They want to have all element and, and that that comes across as sergey stick and that's not only in arabic. That's in a lot of areas with elites or what at the top and they're they're they're balling out.

That's just and that's what they do. What that's? What people do when they ball out, so they have a lot of of leverage um to get what they want and they want that because that's just what people want. It is what it is so yeah it by nature. It is, and what is it? I don't know like i've always thought the whole like stepping extra way to to go.

Do certain things like like me like going to get a woman on my project, because i just want to get a woman on my project. It's disingenuous. You know like if you make hard, there's always going to be people that are going to with it. That's the bottom line.

I agree with it and i disagree with it. I agree with it and that that's the hip-hop i love you know. Em said growing up. It didn't matter what color you was.

If you could spit, then you could spit. That's it. That's what it was right and right now so much of what people see from hip-hop is marketing the person who pops up at the open mic and is super nice and the people in the community respect it. But they never get that extra little push.

But that's because that artist that makes the decision to go to the open mics is not pushing themselves to the point to get to there, but it's not an even playing field from the jump i mean because systematically women and queer folk and people of color. You know they are on different levels in terms of resources, even unconsciously, the same folks. You know that are at the open mic and how they're pushing themselves how they're pushing themselves how to push themselves each time they push themselves. There are other people that kind of validate them or allow them in higher and higher up, and they see this.

You know this dopa white rapper and then they see this, like you know young women of color rapper, and then it's just like you're like well. This is what i'm more familiar with. This makes more sense to me, so i'm just going to go with it right. People are just don't make dollars about that.

I actually don't don't agree with this, not even a little bit uh. I this. Maybe i'm wrong about this, but i think at this point in time i don't think people uh give a and people uh, gatekeep and and all people down if people make make good stuff and they post it. If people make good music, if people make a product they people want to consume, they consume it.

If people make a good song, a good rap or whatever, on whatever platform, nobody, nobody cares what they look like. No, nobody really. If they make a good product, they don't want to consume, they consume it and a story that nobody who's going to gatekeep them. Are we going to log into youtube and remove the views and remove the likes and are going to remove their followers? No, they don't.

They don't because they consume the product, make sense to the industry, my boy, they don't sign unless they make money in streams and if it's good and it gets streams they signing it trust me yeah, i mean sure if it makes money, if it makes me look Like this little knots x is gay he's top of the world right now yeah, but that's one gay rapper in a world of a hundred straight rappers yeah, it's what um dude it's new. It's emerging the ways to get the ways to get famous with the rap game are evolving. It's it's getting easier and it's also called progression he's right. You know it makes sense, but it's what's called progression things get there.

People don't change overnight what they expected people to people with america, people everybody to just wake up, all of a sudden yeah boom and 60 gay rappers, one million asian rappers everybody's wrapping up in this. Oh no man, yeah! I get it. I don't agree with the general consensus of people and what they think, but it doesn't mean that we have to get to the conclusions in one day: it's impossible. It's it's impossible or more thousands and get out there and do it my boy he can do it.

Daddy straight up, i've always wanted to be a rapper three. Two one go. What do you say? I just wanted to be a rapper yeah man. Three two.

You strongly agree you should you guys should see my bars a strict fire. I grew up in a neighborhood in a time where it was an aftermath of the war on drugs, so i lost my father to gun violence. When i was four and you know he was shot 22 times. I lost a lot of friends and relatives and then, when i heard 50 cent get rich with that trying album it was like he's telling my story.

I feel you know he. He carried me through a time where it was a war going on in the hood, and i was like man i feel like. I want to do what he's doing and offer that same hope to people in my community and share my story. You know so yeah.

I knew once i was like 11 12 that i wanted to rap. You know man, so the first time i ever wrote testimony. I was five years old. I i saw run dmc as the musical guest on all that i busted out my composition, notebook and i was like that was a sick song.

I got i got to write all the lyrics i had the beat in my head. I wrote lyrics for my own memory. It was probably whack as i was like five years old, but i showed it to my uncle the next day and i was like yo check this out. I wrote this like run dmc remix and he was like this.

Is fire you got ta keep this up, and i say from that moment that was like this is what i need to do. I need people to hear my lyrics. I take pride in in my penmanship and i just want everybody to appreciate the lyrics for me. I feel like you know what, because i feel like you should edit this in a way that uh, the testimonies went like in a crescendo way coming from this guy and in his story going to that guy after high school.

What uh, like i was freestyling like homies, was like yo, you kind of fired with the freestyling, but, like i never took it seriously, i mean i got. I don't want to be disrespectful because you guys, like oh yeah, i still remember you my my father. My father's been shot so that, and he was like yeah i meant i saw i yeah. I brought some bars when i was eight and i showed this to uncle steve.

Like i don't know, that was like awesome whatever i just watched videos like yeah rap music. As far as so i don't know, i started up in school towards the end. I wasn't feeling that you know, and i just uh started grinding with the rap. You know.

I never had no job. Luckily, i right away like my first started taking off, so i just kind of like that's when i wanted to be a rapper you know like is once i started seeing like i dropped my first song and she started going crazy and then we just repeat and Repeat and repeat, and that's when i want to be a rapper, but i definitely not always wanted to be a rapper actually rico. Pabon is a puerto rican. Rapper from new york.

Very underground was the first time that i saw like a contemporary latino rapper. That was doing something, and i think that's when i first started to think that, like oh, i guess latinos, you know they kind of look like me can be in rap, so i grew up in delaware. You know what i'm saying like as a chinese kid in, like suburban delaware, there weren't a lot of those kinds of voices from the margins. It was hip-hop that was like giving me that god book giving me those pathways throughout the song.

So because of that, i link it. I've always wanted to be a rapper and, like krs once said right, i am hip-hop, it's not something. I do it's not something that i try to do it's just who i am and and that's where it comes from for me, it's not bad a lot of yards. I ain't dropping the ball.

I don't make your heart, you ain't built for this. It's not bad rap, it's not it's damaging to young people. Oh, i actually kind of you know what guys this is gon na be a terrible take this way this is gon na, be my most bad. Take.

I actually agree with that. One go. I think it can be because you can put some like really young kids on to like what was just talking about money, sex drugs and what i'm going to go neutral with this one. Because because you can't, you can't limit the art, because, because of the uh in my opinion, because of the extent that how people are going to interpret it, i think you should be allowed to do and say with your story whatever you want and what's happening with, You without thinking about how it's going to influence people because then you're again, then you limit a art and you cut its legs off like it's super hard.

Typically for older people, i would say, like you know, once you graduate high school, it's like more common to be around that stuff, but like no, i mean i think it can just like. I don't know it can be damaging. You know i mean, like movies music video games like to put blame on all that stuff for influencing people like their actions. I don't know to to listen to something and then act on it and then blame that for what you did.

That's just a cop-out. You know so i would say, because if a mind is um not fully exposed to a certain, it is a cop-out. I agree, but sometimes it's the way, the way that the way that it's done, the way that guys this is the way it's done sometimes like um, they dude come on rap too early, then they can distort like their perspective on things. If the parent isn't there to introduce it to him, so for my son, i'm not gon na play, you know an eminem album to him or whatever or a t grizzly project.

Now, when he's older, i'll lay the foundational principles down about okay, here's life and here's. What this means - and i always say your music - should evolve right. So for me, if i grew up on a corner when i was 13 and now i'm traveling to l.a doing the show, i should talk about that and i just say: yeah, i'm still on the block robbing people cause i'm lying. You know what i mean like people want to grow with their artists and the people they look up to like we see jay-z doing with 444, like talking about manhood, talking about success and acknowledging his mistakes and also you know walking people through that process.

That's important! You know all right, it sounds so weird because i'm going it's like going against my argument about the thing, but it's really how i feel, though, like i don't i don't with how so many people like promoting all this drug use and and pills. You know what i'm saying one of my brothers od'd like a month ago. You feel me if you're gon na talk about it. You also need to let know, especially if your audience is younger people come yeah, but yeah, but guys i super agree.

I i would think, but it's not it's have a responsibility to say, like you know, at least let them know what the it's a tough, it's a tough topic, um, finding a way to to to translate both sides in a way in a way that that that's Incorporated into the art is, is always difficult. I feel like the they're getting into you know. If i'm, if i'm not promoting that they're going to go to someone who is you know if the same way to say like telling, i could tell people as much as i want. Don't pop perks, don't do pills for the people who really want to do that.

Are going to go they're not going to want to hear me, you know they're going to want to hear people who are talking about that. So i guess i don't okay, you know what i'm going to give you a good metaphor. What about what about when somebody gambles on stream great example, i think it's a fantastic example right, even if i gamble all day and i aim for people to gamble, because i'm doing it, gambling organic and every time i'm winning whatever i'm saying guys, but don't gamble. You're gon na lose all your money.

Can i say it enough that it equalizes the balance or or if it heals the possible damage, not really it's. Why it can't it can't be a a one-to-one like ratio where things get flattened out. It's just kind of impossible, and i think that was a good. That was a good analogy.

Doesn't it because it it's it's it's never it it'll! It's just. I think a just me saying having a song can really make a change. His life around. You know, like obviously you undervalue yourself gee.

I feel, like i mean think about yourself, you're in music, because music also means something to you right. It's resonated and built so much value when you build yourself up like yeah yeah, maybe not like. I must be like. Oh, oh uh, here's a thousand bucks on black jacket.

Oh three thousand bucks. Don't dabble, don't gamble, don't dabble, don't double it's a door that opened up and you know just kind of tied back into conversation. I think. Even beyond being artists and creators, we have responsibility as men as members of the community right to be thoughtful with our actions right.

Consider it with our words and then especially as creators just to know that our exists beyond us for the positive and negative and to just take that in stride and understand, there's only consequence from our actions, good and bad. Some good points i think giveaways and getting to friends equalize it. Actually, i think the the exact opposite. What the! If you, if, if you promote gamba and then and then you give money to people, don't gamble it and then they'll probably spend money that they can't afford to lose.

What are you on about that is so incorrect? What an incorrect take wait that was a table taken.