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Right now there's a twitch streamer getting Tomatoes thrown at him all across Twitter for a clip that's going viral of him having an embarrassing and horrible response to one of his community members answering a question that asked them in Spanish And it's Chef's Kiss all right, Bro chat. my Twitter was bombar with this and had like things you may like Bro I was mding over my feet and clicked it. Dude, it was where you man oh my well tell you what M Dirty Cury, You know what we're not going to do. Wait, what did he say I wasn't paying to.
He asked them in Spanish and it's Chef's Kiss all right Kirvy, where the have you been Oh my well, tell you what Miss Dirty KY You know what we're not going to do. we're not going to talk about it in my chat cuz it's Friday And that is a whole big bucket of bummer and his response is a big barrel of butt cheeks. So to give context to this situation here on the lore. Uh, this was a regular viewer of this streamer, an avid supporter who had taken a bit of a Hiatus and was unfortunately going through a very hard time with her mother passing.
so when he saw that she was back, he asked her oh, where have you been to which she just answered honestly that her mother had passed away so you know was a bit of a tough time. that's why she was taking a a break and then for some reason this must have input a cheat code into the streamer's brain that just sent him into like Debate Club he for some reason then just goes into like this: Ted talk about how you shouldn't answer his question if your answer is something sad because it brings down the Vibes of the stream. it's baffling because you had asked her and she just answered your question honestly. uh I'll play a bit more of the clip before getting listen, listen, listen I this before.
okay, there is a culture here before. okay of trolling me. okay because CH wouldn't get my attention with their donut. they would start saying it yo dude mom cat died Train derailed ceiling of my head evicted house on fire train bugged in all the time and it was so deliberate and stupid that I started ignoring them and insulting it.
Anybody would come in okay and tell me about the trauma. Okay I would insult them Why? because they were all fake Dude: okay and I could tell which were the ones that were fake which that were not okay and I would act appropriately dude I don't give no getting into it but I Want to make it clear early on that I Understand a lot of streamers have a similar perspective where you don't really want someone in chat that's just talking about like a really traumatic experience they're going through because it's not really the place for it. and the streamer not the therapist like I Do get that perspective, but there's a difference between like, okay, Listen, listen. here's my actual take before: I people say I'm I'm gling here.
Here's the correct response: Okay, when you hear something traumatizing or something that happened, somebody trauma dumping okay, think about it. think about it. think about like a line. Okay, you're on a line. okay and uh, um, you either do this right or you do this. Okay, so you either say hey man, I'm sorry that happened, blah, you talk about it or you say hey, they haven't move on, right? You don't go and say yo your ass you do You don't do that neutral, positive or stop or or or ignore. You don't have to make them feel bad for it. There's no point doing that.
There's no point just a random person treating twitch chat like it's their psychiatrist and you asking you help me over the past few months after my Grandpa died, but it's been helpful to watch you when I'm thinging down. Hell yeah my dude have G You could have smuggled some people out someone a question and them answering honestly, especially when it's a member of the community that you already kind of know to a certain level. I like I Don't understand why you're all of a sudden getting mad at them for answering that and I'm sorry for your loss, but we're not doing that in my chat. Whoa.
uh thank you. Well okay Mr Kirby you said no, that's fine. Okay okay so here here's probably what I mean. One, his first mistake is one.
he acknowledges the existence of it, two. okay, wait wait wait wait wait for it. He acknowledges that it's real and he knows it's real and then three. Then he on him.
that's the problem. acknowledge that it's real okay, right and then on him. you don't do that you asked So I told no I didn't ask you to tell me the biggest bummer news in the world I said hey, what's up how are you You know what? Let me give you a little bit of a Also, he asked TR about that you're he did ask how's it going bummer news in the world I said hey, what's up, how are you You know what? Let me give you a little bit of a lesson. Miss Nerdy Kirvy When something really, really bad is going on in your life and in a public forum, someone asks you, hey, what's up, how are you There are two acceptable respons, uh, responses.
Uhoh good and you know what? I'll make it through what? Okay, okay, okay, forget it. This guy's far gone. Okay I guys I Okay as this. Okay, listen.
listen. that's somebody who does this every day. Okay, this interact with pixels type. Okay, this is unhinged.
this. is good and you know what? I'll make it through that. What? No people people can vent, people can say whatever the they want. Okay, Also, you know, say yo.
You can only have these two responses. you're a robot. Okay, someone wants to say some okay, whatever it's it's kind of like on them I guess whatever. whatever.
but they're still allowed to do that. Okay, they're chilling like I don't get it, it's not. That's it. So you want to just talk to NPCs that only have two dialog Ops Okay, then why bother trying to communicate with a human being like okay, give them a script.
make sure your community has the acceptable answer script to my stupid questions I Don't actually care where you've been? Like, just tell me one of these two canned respon. Trauma dumping has been too much lately. No, okay, trauma dumping isn't that big of a problem. Okay, unless you're like chasing people in and roping them in. Okay, somebody says how you doing hey man, life is dog They can just say I'll s to happen man and move on. That's fine. There's no problem but saying hey man oh how am I doing it's dog and the other person has the right to say sorry man I hope it gets better. Boom it's done.
They they trauma dumped I guess But what is the extent of that? What? What? What is the what is the the damage of the trauma dump? There's none. There's none. Say oh my God You say things were bad. Oh now I feel bad.
That's your problem. You're being A about it. Now you are being A okay, not them, not them. Now you are being a little about it.
Wait what? That is how it is. Yes yes yes. If you says so, some some entry level information about how things are going on like that and you want you want to inake all that and say it's your fault, that's your problem you like. This is so dumb.
and I also love the AUD it. Let me give you a lesson here on how to handle my questions going forward. It's just so laughable that he's acting like some kind of social Savant Here about how to handle conversations and what you're allowed to say. You're twitch streamer Man, all of us as streamers are not exactly the most socially gifted like.
Let's just face the facts here. So why are you trying to act like the authority on the matter here as if you're some kind of social? Guru Who's now giving a lect? You know, you know you know being socially inapt doesn't always mean you. You're you're you're socially like bad. No, no.
this thing here. boys. wait before everybody starts getting mauled about some okay. being socially inapt.
Does it mean You're a bad person? It rarely does. okay. What I mean by that is that no, no, no what I mean by bad is being a negative person being somebody who's who's uh um uh being a bad person. okay Ina when you are Ina what it's going to show to other people is that you are Ina okay I sometimes I get caught up.
somebody says something really bad like hey man like this happened something really bad right and I'll say why I don't know what this is with me. It happens sometimes I'll say why when I shouldn't ask why but I ask why but the person knows for a fact that I'm inapt okay and it'll give me like a pass for it. which is I try to get better. but at Le I don't say damn Jesus Christ man that's your fault or or like why you tell me that I don't care that's being negative or trash.
okay I don't do that I'm Ina so don't mix being Ina and being negative. Sure to your community about what is and is not allowed in a public conversation. It's goofy. It's very silly. how are you good or you know what? I'll make it through awesome Love to hear it see there you go or prom's response yeah I said prom how you doing she says I'm alive. You know What's just as easy as those two responses is you being able to respond with some level of empathy like oh man, that's terrible I'm sorry to hear that or damn that's awful news. stay strong or man, that's terrible. Hopefully today's stream can lift your spirits a bit.
Like you also have equally easy responses to like instead of dwell on the the negative here and for some reason try and shame her for answering your question even to no empathy. Uh, responses are still good as long as you're not like going going at them though. Honestly, you could have just as easily had a very simple and empathetic response to it and and moved on from it. but instead now you're putting all of it on her and blaming her for Bringing Down the entire atmosphere as if she somehow forced you to enter your your goof mode here, your insano style the tantrum that you're throwing like it is your fault.
You could have either not asked the question if you didn't want like real answers or you could have had some level of empathy and just given like a general decent response like damn awful news. Sorry to hear that, stay strong makes sense and then just go about like a good Vib stream like it's just it's super easy. Oh I asked you where you were look Mr Dey all I'm trying I'm just subtly trying to tell you that unloading really heavy news in people's Chats on Twitch is not like good etiquette. it's just it's not the place to do it.
That's all. I'm trying to tell you heavy news like that. Disagree. dis disagree.
You can do whatever you want pretty much anywhere. Depends. Listen. Listen I don't just say yeah, he he's right I don't agree at all I don't give a I don't care Dude dude, dude, you want to express yourself man, do what the you want yet people are going to be certain ways or whatever the right and and and you might get some people to say yo, you're you're exing for attention I Don't give a man if you want to express yourself.
go ahead you know what I do I type in my offline chat What about it I don't give a people say you, he's doing that Okay so what when someone asks hey where have you been you don't need to tell them Well my dog died my husband left me for a younger woman he's coping my flow he to my house burnt down he out FL what the is that my car got stolen I've been a little bit busy that's why I haven't been around cuz it's like oh God like oh oh God your bad news is making my easy job just bar for bar a little stressful cuz now I've heard your bad news like like can can you have some level of Shame can you start like world's record Minecraft 60 minutes, 40 seconds BG Hey man, dog died fish died cat died mom died Train Derailed plane crashed building uh EV Eviction Okay dude, dude, stop having bad things happen to you and then share it with me. when I ask like God where do you get off? What a stupid perspective bro, what are you talking about that's not even what they did. You ask them a question also you want try again Stream one. Okay I'm going to give you some advice I didn't have to fish with this advice okay I I I created through experience Okay I Said: if you're getting mad and people are doing it too much traum, dumping and donos and like that don't make that person feel bad, package the package them in. Okay, one guy does it. two guys it three four five and after like couple days if this, if it's stacking, say yo guys I'm going to keep it a buck lately. Dude, this isn't anybody but holy man bro, it's getting heavy y mother suckers okay I get it bro, can we chill a little bit like holy I Think packageing in is fine. As long as you're not going at one guy and you're smoking him, it's fine And they gave a simple response to it.
Now for a little further context. she in her first response accidentally led with like a laughing emotion. So she led with like LMAO cuz she was responding to like a joke he had told and then answered his question about her mom passing away. She she got a little concerned that it was going to be misconstrued like she was joking about that.
So then she clarified again that no, like it's just been a rough time, it's just been horrible. So she said it like twice or three times in total but it was never to dwell on it or try and treat him like a therapist or treat chat like it was a self-help subreddit or something. She just answered his question but didn't like her first answer because she thought it might get misconstrued so then just said like no, it's just been bad and that's where that's where it was. She didn't try and like keep pressing it further or anything for some reason he did.
He took it and ran with it and made it an overwhelmingly negative thing and then shamed her publicly in front of the entire Community for it which is so weird and terrible thing to do Now Like I said in the very beginning I Do understand the perspective of not wanting your community to treat it like it's a like a therapy session where they're dropping really heavy things going on in their personal lives into the twitch chat or asking you to solve the problem. The real guys My open guys My D on Twitter Okay I had a bunch of like stories every day. 10 P stories of like people saying yo dude here's how my life is dying from cancer. Everybody on fire.
Bang Bang Bang Bang Bang Bang bang. Okay and it's not one guy per per day. it be bang bang bang a bunch of them. You know what? dude, you know what you know dude.
Okay I would reply to off on DMS a lot of times I read them when it's too too late I read them like once every like week or some once every two weeks. Okay, okay, okay but I know for a fact that it probably helped them somehow. Okay to just say it. them saying it okay was a big part of like feeling better in that moment just laying it out there. they don't want to put it in else. okay and I didn't respond they say I'm a bad person for that. Okay, but there's a so many I was like you know dude you know I'd rather them releasing it like that than me responding, them responding, me responding and one at one point me going live for 20 hours and I'm not responding and then feel like oh my god dude man, he was connecting with me dude but now he doesn't do it anymore Now I Feel bad No dude I Think it was better to ignore that situation and I I that's it's just what I do man I think I Think that's fair enough for them I do agree that that is just not the time nor the place and that's not going to help the person either. That's not going to help them or anyone else around you that needs professional help and someone to actually be there and qualified to give real helpful advice to that person that's struggling and twitch chat is the last place you'd want to go for anything real.
So I do agree like that is never a a good case. like that's never a good situation to be in, but that's not the situation this streamer was in. He had asked a Community member that he knew a question and it was a personal question. where have you been now I'm waiting for your answer and they explain.
Well, it's just been a bad time because her mom had passed away and that's it she didn't like. keep going forward about it. like to to try and like make it all about what she's going through she just answered his question Point Blank and for some reason he went off the rails about it. Oh like you know, like if if someone asked like hey, what's up, where have you been and it's heavy, just be like I had a bunch of going on.
So I've been lying low for a little while. Got it? That's it. Wait I feel something tells me he would have the same reaction was said that I'm not trying to rip you a new ass. Yeah, not trying to rip you a new ass, just trying to embarrass you in front of the entire stream.
Um, the lack of self awareness here, buddy. That is kind of exactly what she did. But instead of just saying I've got some that I'm going through. So so I was lying low she said well, family member passed away.
so I was lying low. That's it. She didn't continue to like go through the the nitty-gritty on everything that happened. She did almost exactly what you said but was a little more specific on exactly what that was.
but in essence it's the same thing. Would you have still melted down if she had said I had a lot of bad horrible things happen? So I was laying low for a bit I don't think so. You probably would have just given a normal, like decent human response like man. Sorry to hear that. Hope that clears up soon. Why couldn't you have had that same levelheaded, rational response to her just being a bit more specific with what that horrible thing she was going through was she? Again, she didn't streamers pull less than five stats pulled together stack, bus seat 9 days of six and viewers. So anything more than five immed than all twitch streamers pull less than five viewers. So anything more than five immediately puts you in the top 6.7% of the site.
These are old numbers too. These are from 2021. So I Imagine this is only grown. So why am I bringing this up? Well, because the streamer who right now is catching more Tomatoes than the goddamn Hines ketchup Factory is not a huge streamer, at least not by most people.
On Twitter's definition of a big streamer, he has around 55 average viewers. And to put that in perspective, that does put him in the top 1% of Twitch at least based on the numbers I'm seeing because again, the vast majority of streamers are streaming to actually zero people crickets. You have better luck getting your old high school classmates to watch your Facebook live stream than you do. Getting found on Twitch is not bad guys guys.
I did I did the rundown of one to 200 twice from one and dude, dude, it's a lot of leg work. My this like starting Community from nothing so everyone that's just writing them off is a nobody. And small streamers who cares what they are saying or what their opinion is I hate that perspective and I will always hate that perspective. The the mentality around numbers is so like up these days that they can't recognize how big of a number 55 average viewers is like, yes, it's not the biggest streamers on Twitch but that's still a pretty large number when put in perspective with how big the market is and how saturated it is.
But this ties into the bigger point I want to make on the back of those numbers now during the current year? Okay okay even though there's more shammers, there are more ways to get past the early the the early numbers. you just you're just not thinking creatively okay. the way that I got past the 10 the one viewer Mark okay is by being creative okay and I've I've said before in certain videos in some questions people asked how I did it I said it I was very open about it and it was fine. he say question mark you got lucky no I did not not not not okay I post on forums that were about uh it was really meant for people to share their things and share their streams I did that I would I would post my stream on Facebook okay on A on A on A on A on a place that literally said yo if you stream this game in French post your link and I would post there.
they was literally invited in those places they they wanted that you guys hey hey hey hey you say Facebook mea Facebook you make make fun for it okay I did that every day I start my stream and you want to know do dude I'm at the I'm at the point where I'm at right now because of this where you guys at every saying everybody Facebook my go, where are you at P Okay, the market being as saturated as it is, carving out a community being as tough as it is, the last thing you want to do is it up which is exactly what this guy has just done. He's currently streaming right now with like 140 viewers which is more than he normally averages. but I imagine the majority of this this is hate Watchers hoping to just on him in the chat and I've already seen it from a couple of his Subs Some people were saying how disappointed they were in him and that's a really big deal because when you have a really tight-knit Community Once the viewers start feeling like you don't actually give a about them at all or that you're kind of a piece of, they probably won't stick around because there's so many other streamers that they'll just go to so this will potentially end up being a huge problem for him. His first response was this on Twitter where he's just taking full resp responsibility for being an which I guess is fine like he's just saying yeah, this was a real piece of here. but then 12 hours later he made an apology video and doubled down on everything from his initial Twitter clip. Firstly, it is well known in my Channel that I do not tolerate heavy news drama or trauma uh dumping if you will being entered or dropped into the chat. this has been discussed and explained and made clear many times. While I've been live over the last four plus years that I've been on Twitch the people that come to my channel often they know this.
They see it all the time. Um, so that's something that I want to make sure everyone understands. He directly blames her for violating his terms of service for being a chatter. Basically saying I have very strict rules.
you're not allowed to kill Vibes with bad news or anything drama related or heavy. Okay, then don't ask questions that could potentially lead to like someone being honest with you. Man, not everything in the world is going to be sunshine and rainbows. So why ask a question to your viewers that they might just be open about.
If you don't want to actually hear it, you know it just doesn't make any sense. Like and why are you blaming her? You're blaming the victim here in this situation. What a terrible look when you had already in your previous say that's what I do TW sang a very different tune where you're like yeah this one's kind of on me I was a douchebag also. what change Also Good Vibes only is terrible.
Okay, most people that are like all all all positive typee are usually more negative and end up doing crazier and more negative people who are just themselves. That's how it is. Okay I'm tell right now I'm right Now here's my truth about the world and in the Internet. Okay, people that are positive only are actually much worse than people who are just normal normal everyday self all of a sudden. Now you what? You woke up this morning and you feel like you're not a douchebag, you're a superhero. In fact she's the villain because she didn't follow your your strict chat rules. This is not the first time that she's violated the expectation that people not share heavy news in my channel. Oh my.
God The frustration from having her argue in chat that she was quote just answering my question even though she's been spoken to about this type of thing before. Calling this an apology is a disservice to apologies. He is literally just justifying his reaction and saying it's all her fault. She violated our expectation of her in chat and then said she has a history of doing it in her statement.
one of her Twi longers, she clarifies a bit deeper on what he's talking about and he's pretty Oh my. God I Don't give a especially with the help of your streams god bleading with the way he portrays what happened here Again, you asked her a question, she answered it. So the quote I was just answering your question is very accurate cuz that is all she was doing. Man frowned upon drink dude.
I'm getting follows right now from Joe J K welcome to the Channel thanks for the follow us. He even acknowledges that maybe he should edit that out and then decides not to. You should have edited that out. That's a what a big yikes moment there in your apology not an apology in your your blaming pointing the finger video you get a a follower take a moment to say thanks for the follow and like just call out the follower during this What a bad look how could you not recog recognize that as a potential problem? But regardless the the the actual video he has made here is not a good response.
It is somehow even worse than the initial one with the doubling down and trying to justify it like just have an obvious Common Sense levelheaded response like y I overreacted this was stupid I shouldn't have done that I don't even know and no this guy, you're losing your mind. Shut up What? I was thinking I must have just been in a bad mood like like it was just so easy to move on from this but instead you doubled down and now you look real silly for it. That's about it. See Y yeah.
Also you guys have my take about apologies. Apologies are um apologies are something that somehow I think I have down to a science. Okay because I don't have to think about it I just kind of do it I' I had to do it anyway and even sometimes the biggest companies fail to do it properly, it's insane to me. yo this is X x on the be yo okay you my voice as well.
Us anyone knows that boy I don't know he's just so anyone knows that boy I don't know he's just so s.
Them: Yo man, how you doing?
Him: I'll make it through
Them: ..through what?
Yeah i dont really have the ability to speak about what has happened in the last few years of my life, it would sound like an insane person. I have lost so much and many loved ones.. it happens just know some people have had it rough and you never know
Where have you been = where's my donations
That's what his actions speak.
I would have love to listen to xQc's take on this, if only I can hear a single word he said.
This guy is not good for my heart he just screamed randomly Jesus Christ I nearly had a heart attack
I like how x always have pointless opinion on his own language 😂
Just by watching you react to moist critical my respect for him keeps growing
I think you have a really good take on this situation
i wonder if that viewer was a guy instead of girl would anyone make such a big fuss over it? normal guy would just be like aww no you poor girl, come on private chat, and he would try to use situation to get into this hoe dms. that guy was chad, he was like "fuck you b word, we dont need your sadness here" he wasnt some beta cuck simp. and thats why he gets more viewers now. : P
yea you can say whatever you want when someone ask you question but person that doesnt look for attention like her wouldnt say her family member died since its personal stuff. she could say "oh i will tell you different time etc., just had some private things going on" and its end story. especially when that guy told her already some time ago to not bring sad stuff on his stream.
but holyyy shitt people make drama over anytthing these days >.<
Charlie = repeating the same line for the whole video
The only relevant thing as to who's in the wrong here is that the streamer directly asks her where she has been. Don't ask your viewers anything if you're going to be a little bitch over something that has nothing to do with you.
xqc reminds me of that twink femboy wojack
She literally didn't even trauma dump either, just answered a question, didn't drag it on over and over for sympathy