Anything we need to know as soon as I Find out: One, two three four five, six, seven, eight, nine, ten Okay I want to hear about this? Uh, okay, here we go. I've wondered. Joe Rogan This guy who describes himself as a professional fool went from hosting a game show where he eats cockroaches with contestants to becoming the host of perhaps the most popular podcast on Earth Are you going? No and that's how you die now. Listen I am not a Joe Rogan listener.

Well at least I wasn't before this story, but by now I am because by now me and my team have listened to a lot of Joe Rogan If you didn't know whether or not people agree with you or disagree with you I think that'd probably be better overall for people I Wanted to understand where this guy came from, what his deal is. What does he say during these like two to three hour long episodes that are listened to by millions of people. Because For Better or Worse he is influencing a lot of people. So let me show you how an average Joe like Rogan can sit around getting high, talking to his friends and somehow get millions of people to tune in.

Now I know that talking about Joe Rogan can cause some controversy, but at the end of that round, before we get into it, let's think today's sponsor the so it's 1987. I'm gonna like it says um but as you can tell it's called Johnny Harris and local videos about something, he's really good. Here's a 20 year old: Joe Rogan taking a guy down with a spinning back kick at a Taekwondo competition always moving to new schools, always dealing with new kids and I wasn't big and I didn't know how to fight and I got picked on and I didn't like it so I said I wanna I wanna figure out how to fight and eventually he got really good at it I was competing from the time I was 15. I just threw myself into it.

That's all I did every day and then One Summer Night In 1988 when he was 21. he went to an open mic night at a comedy club in. Boston your legs are sprawled out on the bed like Bambi trying to walk in a frozen lake and banging your head against the headboard. His friends goaded him to get up on stage and perform a stand-up set.

It must have gone really well because soon after Rogan moves to LA to make it big in comedy. By the 90s, he was showing up in TV shows as the goofy lovable comedic relief because the lights better over here. Damn everything's better over here. But this sitcommy thing wasn't his dream.

He loved comedy and fighting. Enter UFC Ultimate Fighting Champion I wonder how we got him there? Okay, so it's the late 90s and now Joe Rogan is like a UFC commentator personality interviewing Fighters Backstage This is actual footage of his first appearance. They are anticipating a wipeout in the finals. Yeah, this guy's good.

like he's got such a Magnetic Personality even back then. By the time he was in his 30s, it was the 2000s and Joe had proven to be a talented host. and Entertainer and he was chosen to host a show where contestants would be pushed to their limits to test their fear. It was a show aptly named Fear Factor Yeah Fear Factor I mean I Remember this from my childhood.

the show had like a huge impact on our media culture. You know, you know what? Jeff People gonna think that the spot for animator three shows. it's gonna kind of kind of easy or whatever, right? I Think that role is underlooked because they they do really good right? but because they're not the main star of the show, right? I Feel like we can? we kind of forget about them a little bit. That's my that is for me.

Okay I think it's quite late. It was disgusting and sometimes just downright horrifying. But honestly it was brilliant because it was impossible to. Look Away What was that? So Fear Factor was like the big leveling up for Joe Rogan You know what? Again, very fortunate.

it was a great gig, plenty of money and it was all good and it definitely helped my stand up because it gave me money too. It gave me the the ability to not worry about like having money in the bank. and by the end of the early 2000s Joe had a lot of experience. He was an Entertainer He was a comedian.

He was an actor of interesting people. It was charismatic and tough and funny and hard-working all of the ingredients he needed for his next. The show was huge, but a lot of shows were huge and the people that animated it worked for they scanned them a lot. It happened on Christmas Eve 2009 Joe and one of his comedian friends recorded a two-hour podcast.

It was a sprawling conversation covering everything from conspiracy theories to game addiction to sensory deprivation tanks. It was honestly a good omen for what this show had become. I mean experience. Kind of a nod to Jimi Hendrix Now remember in 2009, podcasts weren't really a thing yet.

You had a bunch of like sort of radio shows that were making onto podcasts Like This American Life or Planet Money Stuff you should know. but this was all very new at the time. but that changed when people could stream podcasts on Demand with their new little Internet connected pocket computers right from the beginning. Joe Rogan's show was fast, prolific, and consistent uploading multiple times a week and by the end of his second year on the show, he had had a bunch of big names as guests.

We've done everything wrong. We these were young male elephants. They're the fastest moving creatures I think in the wild once they get going and they hate bright like bright shirts which of course we were wearing. Uh, they don't.

They're spooked by people holding implements uh, which, of course that's what we were doing. and they particularly don't like being herded by people one you know, thousandth of their weight. At the beginning, they were mostly Comedians and Fighters I'm thinking about because in Scientology there is a man using every ounce of what Scientology is offering to make himself the best of available man that he's capable of being. Yeah, then you've got Travolta But soon he started to Branch outside of Comedians and fighters to a different genre of people.

let's call them thinkers. workers don't have the right to engage in collective bargaining in the United States until the 19th. Well, I think ours and in the screen of roles to Miley Cyrus That's where that whole idea of the let the market decide falls apart. We would have philosophers on and politicians, scientists, you name it.

The show started to become just a grab bag of any interesting person. Joe Rogan wanted to have a conversation with Neil deGrasse Tyson The astrophysicist appeared a few times. You get a Multiverse we didn't pull that out of our ass that came out of the equations. Soon it was bigger and bigger names.

Elon Musk Nick Kroll Jay Leno Georgetown Wiz Khalifa Dr Phil Travis Barker By the late 2010s, The Joe Rogan Experience was reaching around 11 million listeners per episode, making it the most popular podcast ever, at least on platforms like Apple podcasts. and Spotify like I had never listened to this but I knew of Joe Rogan because he's kind of everywhere when you're scrolling through any podcast app. So then in 2020 Spotify was like any app. I want a piece of this like giant popular podcasts and they bought the exclusive rights to the podcast for 200 million dollars, which is unbelievably insane.

This was a huge deal for Joe Rogan but also for podcasts. Let's go. Even after this big deal, the show retained its unfiltered quality. It still was.

Joe Rogan Sitting around chatting with mostly dudes talking openly and unfiltered for hours. you don't know what a bear is I've seen a bear in the wild when you see the bear in The Wild you're like oh, you're you don't give a about me often getting progressively more high with his guest. Did people get upset at you if you do something more High uh tobacco and marijuana in there? uh I'm getting text messages from from Friends saying what the hell are you doing smoking weed Okay, so my job has oh no, no waiting super deep into watching stuff that I never watched before like North Korean films and now Joe Rogan podcasts like I've dedicated a significant amount of my time over the past several months to watching this show and even still I'm just scratching the surface. These episodes are long.

They're like two and a half hours on average, and there are almost 2 000 of them. We're talking thousands and thousands of hours of this stuff. Luckily for this story I Had help from our story producer Alex to help us listen to a lot of this stuff. I also spoke with some long time Joe Rogan listeners for some insight right hand here in the office.

We actually had some pretty nice heated debates about Joe Rogan produce content and now after my baptism by Joe Rogan I now have some big takeaways. Some things I Want to say number one: Joe Hates boxes and people love videos. She spends a lot of time lambasting our society's need to fit people into buckets into labels. I Think this left white, right Paradigm is really kind of foolish at this point, and indeed, it's fairly impossible to put Joe Rogan into the standard ideological boxes that were all sort of pressured to fit into most of our media discourse.

Loves boxes, loves to inflame our super identities. The things that we must believe in order to be a good liberal or a good conservative. What kind of opinions are okay to have because they don't interfere with anybody else's life And this you guys we all call me as interest? Well I agree and disagree with both sides all the time. Shut up answer because they're stupid.

Just your philosophy and the way you look at the world. You should be able to express that opinion and express those ideas in front of someone else who has an opposing idea and they tell you why they disagree. And so before. I Listen to a million hours of the show I had mostly seen Joe Rogan in the context of like short little edited clips of like Smackdowns showing like some egregious thing that Joe Rogan had said that he was transphobic or fat, phobic or misogynistic or racist as a lot of these mashups out there.

she's giant like. look at the size of her head, her formerly male head. yeah, that's a giant woman walk into. we walked in the door and there was no white people.

There was no white people. Wow, look at it. That video is so bad it actually made me miss the N-word video. And when you watch this stuff it's so easy to just like slot him in to like oh he must be like some Far Right sort of like racist reaction guys.

He said we're walking to the what because I don't even know what they said that they just blurted out. At least we got the first couple letters we could know what they said I don't know what they said actionary commentator so I was surprised honestly when I listened to a lot of this guy to find out that his politics actually leaned mostly left. She's the wife of the best president that we've had in our lives openly and earnestly voices support for everything from Universal Health Care to abortion to gay marriage to recreational drugs Eileen way left when it comes to those kind of things, gay rights and things like social programs for disenfranchised people and disenfranchised communities Arlene way like if I want my tax dollars to go to anything I wanted to go to making people's lives easier I'm not right-wing at all. Oh okay, that's wild.

No, there's nothing about me. this right wing. he even endorsed Bernie Sanders the Democratic Socialist in 2020 after having him on the show. There's not a single human that can speak for all the American people, but he could look out for the interests of the American people.

And I think Bernie Sanders definitely does do that. You've got three people owning more We the bottom half of the American society. You don't see that on television too much. No, you don't Three people.

you got the top one percent owning more wealth in the bottom. Ninety two percent. What are the misconceptions of you? Because here's here's the if you go to the knee-jerk conservative reaction, you talk to people who are not interested in anyone that wants to be a Democratic Socialist they hear the name Bernie Sanders The negative implications are that you are somehow or another going to take their money, right? Did that annoying to you? Yes, it is. Of course it is.

Oh, and here he is with presidential hopeful. Andrew Yang Agreeing with him on the super Progressive idea of universal basic income. My initial needs a burning. the guy's richer than me Richard and Eric reaction was let's get out of here like Universal basic Ink I'm just going to give people money.

They're just going to be lazy. nothing, they're falling out. That's a terrible idea. And then I started paying attention to the rise of AI and Automation and how many jobs are going to get taken away from.

And then once you see the actual numbers, it's pretty staggering. But despite thinking that he presents his ideas in this very kind of anti-woke anti-political correctness, say whatever you want type of vibe and this is confusing but also very appealing. People love to listen to a guy whose views and language are all over the place. I Think for a lot of people, it's like a respite from the predictable lineup of popular voices that toe a predictable list of beliefs, opinions, views and enemies.

Rogan's style is rare and I think people like that. Which gets me to my second big takeaway. Joe Rogan Sells contrarianism that is his product. A quick reminder that Joe Rogan isn't join the one that isn't support.

They were gonna argue guys. Actually, sometimes people are scared that people are gonna stop them. People are going to put stuff in their tracks on what They say, right? and the only the only person that stops you from doing you most of the time. Unless you're make a racist and like that, it's you people who can't really stop you.

So if you're just gonna keep doing or you're doing it, you're chilling the out. It doesn't matter Chad What What comes out, What we were saying? What the? As long as they just keep going and keep doing them and they don't get stopped by like the platforms or whatever. they're chilling the out of them. Yes as it is, it's like a self-cancellation Theory Okay, that's very important.

People get mad. Okay, cool. next episode. next episode comes up.

I'll be more mad about whatever I said. Okay, cool. Next episode comes out and they just it just keeps going. Just a guy.

He is a commercial and he's always with them. A seasoned performer who performs for an audience for money. He knows what people want and he is selling something very popular. An alternative to the endless reductionist, polarized name calling of our current discourse.

They all do the same move. they drop down and do the splits. That's what I think when I'm watching your shows too. you know all the same stuff.

But and he goes to. Great Lengths Speak himself out as this anti-authority anti-establishment platform where anyone can come and talk if you're in one. Camp You're supposed to have all the opinions that one Camp has. Yeah, and if you do not align with all the opinions, so that one Camp has you find yourself cast out of the group.

No woke police, No mainstream media bias, no corporate deception, just an Earnest curious guy trying to find the truth and not really worrying too much about changing his language to fit the politically correct sensitivities of the day. but I didn't anticipate was social media and the echo chambers that it would provide right and that these ideological Echo Chambers also come with virtue signaling and that people get on these things because you're you're only dealing with a short amount of characters and you state something that you know is going to get a bunch of likes and people are very addicted to likes. the fans I Talk to love this about Joe Rogan Like he's like the antidote to like the corporate, mainstream biased media that's polarizing us all and frankly I think he leans into this as his brain. which gets me to my third point And this is where I have my biggest critique of Joe Rogan Joe Lets people talk and talk and talk and talk.

The principal okay, so of human interaction on this planet uh, are largely dictated by our ability to discuss things as we've seen Joe has had a huge variety of guests on his show, so these are like famous people that you just get to watch talk in this sort of unfiltered way. Let's see if chat I Think it's gonna. it's gonna be contradicting to what he said earlier Maybe I'm Wrong Let's see it. hey like I'm just a type of Junior I predicted Miley Cyrus But then you also have a lot of people with big opinions and big points of view.

from Super mainstream and respected voices to experts on like really specific science things. But then you have a handful of a lot of controversial Fringe characters people who have been censored or canceled by the mainstream media. And honestly, I think Joe takes huge pride in having this spectrum of different points of view. Are you sure? I don't know Joe Rogan But my guess is that half of this is his personality.

He seems to be a guy who loves to discuss things with people, seems to have an open mind. But I think half of this again is a response to the upkeep of his brand I think he likes the appeal of being this anti-mainstream platform I Don't even okay? Yes I'm not trying to be contract is I actually disagree with that I think there's there's some sort of I Just think that there's there's an appeal to having ideas that are sometimes kind of far out right that could have some validity and you think that they're misunderstood or you misunderstand them and you're interested of. having it on the show is to understand them personally at which you can break them down or not in a one-to-one right and you that translates that to the audience. but maybe he actually cares about that and he wants to know, right? I Think that matters a lot and it should say a lot about his intentions or whatever can come and get their.

Fair Shake Tell their side of the story I Mean it's you don't have to agree on on everything in order to have a common sense of the important values that that unify the country or show it. And here comes my big critique. I Think there's a fallacy tucked into all of this. When Joe has these people on, it almost feels like he's giving them a chance to tell their side of the story.

They don't have a place to what's up to tell their side and they've been unfairly censored. I Think this is flawed thinking. Not everyone who has a point of view and who is famous has ideas worth hearing or debating in our society. I Really believe that there are people who've gotten famous simply because they've made a career off of being loud and mean and human nature loves that Again, that's why I Want to be my last text on the video I I Sincerely disagree.

You might know why I disagree with that is he Praises him for being him and being himself as a journey and as a uh uh oh and I mean this guy and he's learning, He's asking questions, he's dialing other people and just talking and having opinions and just kind of going through life right on the podcast and then and then uh uh he gets upset that that means that so people are gonna are gonna talk right and I think that then it goes against it because he says oh if the mission media is so it's so biased and censored and isn't that then um why do you want to do the same thing that the mainstream media does on here on his show the same way they're saying that what we were talking about day-to-day right? Remember Chad when Netflix is like guys, it makes anything so simple with movies and like that right? We're going all working cable television. We're away from cable and going towards streaming. It's easy to get movies and blah blah blah right? But then what does that happen? Now we have a bunch of platforms a bunch of you have to subscribe to and then we are right back to cable television. It's the same concept and the same problems and challenges.

and now he's right. I think he's saying the exact same thing here. Oh, mention media. You know what it does Chad It's it.

Censors this. It does this, It controls whatever and now he wants Joe Rogan to fit in that box of controlling and censoring, whatever and all the and that's we're right back to the same problem. At that point it is exactly the same problem. You just want them to go right back to it.

Which is what the the the the perks of this is It's not that but now we're going back. He wants them to go like it. It doesn't make any sense like here's a show with: Gavin McGinnis I Started this gang called The Proud Boys and uh, Proud Boys. The Proud boys.

What What is what's Proud Boys about? A far-right extremist group that promotes white supremacy ideology and proudly promotes violence against groups they don't agree with for members of The Proud Boys that far-right extremist organization? Well, they've been found guilty of seditious conspiracy for their roles in the January 6 attack on the Capitol. Like here, he is fondly remembering the time his group violently attacked people who were protesting Milo Yiannopoulos at Berkeley he goes I started to feeling batting I started feeling bad after a while because I was just I Could tell these kids had never been in a fight and I was just mowing through them. I mean I Don't know. Like having a guy on your show who espouses the view that lenient immigration and abortion sorry I should have muted is leading to white genocide in the west.

doesn't feel like fruitful, robust dialogue that will open all of our minds and push the boundaries of our discourse. It feels like outraging people with old tribal ideas to get attention. and this is my critique. is like it feels like sometimes.

Joe Oh my. God Chat, you guys got me guys. You're trying to invalidate my take from earlier, Right? because of the because of these flips, right? So trying to say that in a three hour conversation, right, there was no value gained and there was nothing good about it. It was all done because of the clips and the things that these things are presented.

Oh my. God I Cannot believe it. That's crazy. Congratulations because they say and do reprehensible things.

not in spite of it. I'm taking the low road I'm punching them in the face. so that's what you're doing with this outfit. Yes, they think they can ruin his work because he jerked off in front of some people, you know.

I'm not gonna bow down before them and say you were right and they want me to, but they weren't right. I'm right. I wrote it again. His brand is the anti-establishment place where you won't get censored by the Woke police.

But listen. Joe is absolutely right. Being able to say things no matter how much I disagree with them is a vital right. It is an unnatural and precarious thing.

People should be able to speak and we must protect that. I Believe that. and Joe should absolutely legally be allowed to give his giant megaphone to whoever he wants. But that doesn't mean I'm not going to critique it because listen: having this open-minded likable guy who's very good at entertaining us give his megaphone to other dudes who promote violence, who tear down science who invent fake facts and talk about them like they're real.

It doesn't promote curiosity. It normalizes lying. It validates. while I I disagree so much? I don't even know how to even put it in a in a one thought or phrase I Massive Disagree dude.

Dude in a in a complete tirade of lies in garbage. Okay, if you're if your brain has all these things that are lined up and you end up being wrong about and you talk to somebody, right, There is some form of value in that having a conversation about it with a good interlocator or a good interviewer. Okay, because sometimes from lies and bad ideas. Whatever.

right? Unless you're saying oh yeah, you are right, this is. this is true and you're You're validating it right. You're creating new thoughts and new Pathways and sometimes lead to new, uh uh, new answers and new plays that are end up being good. Okay, that's the whole thing.

It's it's like philosophy. Okay, yes, in most fields we have all the answers. Correct. That makes a lot of sense, but in order to get new stuff, you have to ask new questions right? in order to get new answers because you already have the good answer.

and some of these some of these dialogues are sometimes entertaining A a dynamic that creates these new questions that ain't that that give us new that are a value even if it's point zero one percent and there's only just one good word out of all of it that's still value. And you're like it's irrelevant. You're done. I Don't want to hear it.

It's factlessness, which is something that if you haven't heard, we already have a problem with. We're already battling that nuclear bombs actually don't exist. That, uh, they never actually figured it out, but they realized that the the threat of nuclear bombs is good enough. But Eddie You can see the bombs, but how do you know that makes no sense.

Okay you dude. Okay, watch this. Okay, the pyramids. watch.

it goes over the pyramids happen. Are they druggies? Maybe Maybe you're right, right? And they elected. What if people said guys, the parliament is an Egypt Dude, they built it because of this and that, right? and it would just stopped right there. It anything else is anti-science anti-brain anti-brain function because we have already have answers.

They they place the rocks with sliders and and sleds in the water or something and then we just stop entirely. right? Then that becomes the truth and it's implemented and we just count it in against it, right? You know? the guys were saying some when they were like yapping and and whatever I still think that there's value to, uh, keeping some sort of dialogue or some sort of Interest into that, right? And so for people to come up with new theories, new conclusions, new, and then you have more material to go down from to get to other places? That's it. Dude, that they're right doesn't mean that you validate them, is it? It's just a conversation you think they did break. Society if I can had these positions to be broadcasted somewhere is stupid if not much vodka.

it means that we we have to say guys, everything. everything out there that is true is true forever and will never change. That's how we stop improving you dumb you. And this feeling really hit me when I was listening to the episode with Alex Jones Alex Jones A man who has created an Empire off of promoting lies and warped information so that he can sell Health supplements our fertility and it's dropping Across the Western World Ladies and gentlemen, Anthroplex is the newest addition.

Why does anybody that make money with something? It's anything to do. It is our motive to make some it. It is their motive to sell it. I Hate this dumb branded guys.

Not not everything you say is controversial on purpose to sell something. It's just not like why does that not if you apply this argument across the board to all other forms of median people, right then if it loses because then you understand it. it's it's a man who was recently ordered to pay 1.5 billion dollars in damages to the families of the Sandy Hook shooting victims for spreading lies about the shooting being a hoax and yet here he is on. The Joe Rogan Experience Getting a chance to tell his side of the story when I started getting accused four years ago a couple years into it I said no I Think it happened.

Then people that I had interviewed and things started saying he's involved. He's one of them because you are now saying that it happened. They thought that you'd been compromised. Yes.

And then I was realizing, oh, this is how it works. Certain percentage of people are schizophrenic. I'm not defending Alex Jones I'm just telling you did that. Whatever he's doing right now, right? Dude, the thought process is into oh dude, because down the line, I'm going to be selling some powder for for some dude.

Dude: that's not all like that. stop making everything so boring and Bland and one-sided. It's just not that simple dude. Like when you don't agree with somebody, stop making it all one-dimensional Dude: This person I don't agree with them right? and they're wrong.

and therefore everything that they do is all to sell their product at the end of the line. Dude: don't do that man, it's lame as exactly And then they just think everything's a conspiracy now. listen, then you're going to justify that. Everything I do from the moment I wake up to right now to what I'm saying right now right now Checkers I'm being controversial I don't know why I did because later down the line we might switch platforms and Gamble and make money and I ended all to push deadly to make some money and it's all for money.

Like dude, stop, relax, take a seat there's somebody such a for a minute tell you the truth right now and admit something. which is that when I watched this I actually had a moment where I was like oh my God like here's Alex Jones in this like very calm environment he's like yelling like he does on Infowars my heart's big, it's got hot blood going through it fast I like to eat I like to have children and I literally thought like wait is Alex Jones like was he wrongfully accused or was this overly exaggerated? Was this like a Witch Hunt to censor this guy because he's like kind of has far right views because this smells like a proper moment for Jones to tell his side of the story. Well I began to realize because I was on the receiving end of people pulling up in white Vans with guns at my office saying I know you put a microchip in my head I'm gonna kill you So I came out and I said listen I never sent anybody to the houses but I apologize I was taking out of context people to write the question but I'm sorry for the families and I'm sorry for your hurt and I get it and I've experienced crazy people now big time just like you have. Please stop saying that I'm saying it didn't happen and he nearly persuaded me.

but wait no no. Then I remembered that my full-time job is to do journalism. No one died in 2012 in Sandy Hook and luckily I sit around and fact check things all day and I researched it and I reminded myself that there's actually not a ton of nuance here. The facts: Alex Jones repeatedly claimed that the Sandy Hook shooting was a staged event orchestrated by the globalists, the government to promote gun control.

That's why the globalists used children's deaths to go after our guns because they know it gets to us. He suggested that The Grieving Parents yes I I See all that? Yes, that the guy's still wrong across the board on a lot of topics. Okay, can I still have a okay Amazon is still brain dead that will never change. He said it himself.

Okay, that doesn't mean it's all to sell the powder in his box at the end of the show. Dude, it's not how that works. We're crisis and that no children had actually died early on. I said well, they had to kill somebody and this doesn't make sense that parents come out and start laughing and then turn to the camera and Cry he's grieving families who had experienced unimaginable horror had to relocate because of the harassment they received in part due to Jones peddling of this lie so that it could sell Health supplements.

These are facts that are available to all of us. Okay and yet I don't know about you. but if I weren't a full-time journalist who was paid to go down rabbit holes and check facts, I'm not sure would have gone and done this I'm not sure it would have gone and reviewed all of the facts and wrestled with them in my mind. especially not after listening to two two and a half hours guys.

If it wasn't that, it'd be to sell merch because he has merch or because or we're gonna make ad rev if he has ad rev or to uh Farm some money from subscribers. If you have subscribers, it's like a it's like a rabbit hole that isn't worth pushing it. he's still wrong. Across the board he's saying there's still non-facts and lies and it's a problem and I get that it's all all uh, goal posting of Revenue I think it's stupid members of Alex Jones talking I Think the idea of trusting your viewers okay dude, responsible and naive I Spend every day of my life making sure that the things I tell you are factually accurate.

If I get something wrong. it's a cardinal sin in a world of algorithms and misinformation. almost three. Russian Bots It becomes nearly impossible to fact check everything you see, which is why we rely on trusted voices to help us navigate the information out there.

to help us. navigate is real and what is not. If nobody cares about that I don't give a that's Jones A man who makes money off lies gets to tell his side of the story and what does he do with his time? Surprise. Oh my.

God I Came with this guy. Oh My. God. Dude.

Oh My. God What is wrong with this guy? Dude. Dude, 90 of everybody out there makes money from lies. Okay, that's just what do you think the mainstream media is.

They make billions off of legitimate lies that they know our lies. That's the whole bit. What is it all about? What's that about? Yes, what do you think? Clickbait is? What do you think? What do you think? Slight misinformation is what dude they make money off of? Lies That's the whole point dude. that doesn't make it chill.

It makes it that. it's That was what Society is these days. Dude, misinformation spreads faster then good information sensationalism spreads faster. It makes more money.

There's an incentive to do it to make more money. is what everybody does. Stop calling out one person because oh, he's doing it Guys, Dude, everybody does it. That's the whole point.

It's all dog nitpicking it because it's not on your side of your truth. Oh my God. Dude, it's all dog. We know this already lies.

The amount of Sandy Hook coverage against me has been so insane and so huge because it's supposed to be the first Domino the ones I'm taking down, then all the dominoes fall. He tells a story about how this was all one big conspiracy to take him down. Now of course there is more Nuance to this conversation. As usual, Rogan does push back a few times.

brother, brother I Like a son, that's so much what Hassan does. Okay, he does like pop media. whenever there's like news that come out okay, he he covers it okay. and the whole thing.

Usually initial responses a lot of things that happen end up being wrong, end up end up being selectively picked, end up being misrepresented, end up being pretty much lies or half-lies right? and it's all because it's better to just wait at the back till all the information is laid out there and make a proper Muse analysis. That's what you should do if you actually care about the truth. unless you don't, because the whole point of this. Okay, so they say it's a her son's like it's a brain dead because a quick way to do it with a we have all the pieces and say guys, this is how it is but they don't do that right because it makes money.

Everybody does it one way or another. Stop singing This is wrong because he's doing it like this. Everybody do it not like a lower percentage everybody does I think that's I think the majority of them are angry because the narrative has been that you're sending people to these Sandy Hook families homes. but I guess I'm wondering why why is this the person that you want on your show Joe You're a curious, open-minded guy and you've decided that this guy this guy's voice is who deserves your megaphone to 11 million people.

And this doesn't even get to the other hours that Jones has on Rogan's show where he outlines his theories on genetics and race. Native Americans You can mind control really fast. Hmm, why is that? Well, it's like Vietnam so Asians are about the most Fearless Killers there are Native Americans they're the best out there. They can do my youth.

Native Americans are the easiest to do mind reading too because you know they're like one unit Indonesians they're It's just like so crazy. Oh and this clip has less Nuance like if you listen to the whole thing guys I Just thought this was about Joe Rogan not He said well why does that's good you guys guys, this media okay. this this sphere of Internet has gone dog every time you say something right that isn't full on right against somebody, right? Like if it's not full on against them. Oh dude, you're defending them If somebody dude, let's let's say somebody right has uh, doesn't even really bad okay and shoots a gun.

It's terrible and it shouldn't do that right. He's like hey, and you're going to say okay, this is all bad, right? oh but that was like uh okay I'm using the topic because this is going to get this is right. After some guy pulls up right and he's like a bad person, it doesn't mean bad right? he pulls up in a car. it's really nice.

It's a really nice car it's it's well taken care of and then you see the video like why this is a yeah, this is doing something bad he said oh man this car is going to sick oh my God Are you glazing this bad person? Dude, are you saying that like uh, dude, are you like defending him that he has a nice start bro relax something because everything nothing does it all bad that that it's it's all that is bad. You can still be like a not even a little applicator. You can tell that there's multiple components in somebody. You can.

You can hate, somebody admire and you taste it. Okay, a lot of his takes I think are dog shits, a lot of them, a lot of ideologies, and his voice Community are they're damaging and stupid, but his views on motivation and and uh and discipline are very sound and are very good and if applied make you a overall more successful person. That is just a fact that I'm a Glazer guys uh, the financial tape. No, his abuse on uh, self-discipline and motivation are very sound.

They are. And that doesn't mean that you're glazing and you're defending him. That is not what that means. you're just being stupid.

It's cringe. sing it. Did it saying people like oh guys, all these bad takes right and he says like it dude, you should try to be a better person dude like wake up in the morning and go to work yo dude like um like give you up and probably for your family like that like dude, how you gonna disagree with that it's a good thing like take care of yourself like like holy man thing you're actually these are crazy Alex Jones talking Non-Stop about totally theories on race and genetics and Joe is just sitting there nodding his head Native Americans are gung-ho and they're tough and they're ready to fight not you know I'm part native American like six percent Comanche and you know uh Texas and just that little bit makes me wild. No, they're not breaking any laws.

this is their right. But what the? This isn't exploring both sides. This isn't nuanced conversation. This is pretend information framed as rigorous discussion, echoing ideas and thought processes that have been used for centuries to divide and demean people.

This isn't balanced conversation. It's faulty logic and factlessness disguised as this course. I Have no respect for it and listen. Joe Rogan Wouldn't disagree with me fully on this.

He knows that putting people on his show helps them, helps their ideas. And by the way, I'm not a Trump supporter in any way, shape or form. I've had the opportunity to have them on my show more than once I've said no every time I Don't want to help him. This isn't the Public Square This isn't a personal conversation between friends sharing ideas.

This is a powerful man who commands the attention of millions of people. He has decisions on who he gives his megaphone to. This is what's wrong with any field around content creation. It's dog.

It's transferring people's interests into political ideologies. If it's if it's transferring, uh, curiosity into motives, it's shifting things that are natural and human and fun most of the time into dog trash nefar's ideas. and it's damaging for any creative spheres out there. It's dog.

I said it. Dude, Who he does not and what facts he decides to challenge and which he does not Okay, wait, but I'm not done. There's Nuance to my critique, which is that sometimes letting people with ideas that I find reprehensible talk, it's actually really good. Most of Joe Rogan's guests are not.

Alex Jones They're honestly interesting, stimulating conversations with a lot of really interesting people and even the ones I disagree with. There is so much value in letting them talk like I listened to this two-hour conversation with Candace Owens a political pundant who I deeply disagree with I mean she's called Trump the savior of Western Civilization she's called black Lives Matter, a bunch of whiny toddlers pretending to be oppressed for attention I Deeply disagree with this woman after listening to the show with Candace Owens I Still deeply disagree with Candace Owens In fact, I found more reasons to reject her approach to politics and facts. So let's say we all agree that global warming is real I Don't believe it's real. Okay, so I can't say, but that's the question.

But why have a belief? What do you mean? Why have a belief as to whether or not global warming is real or not real? Because I just I just find that when things are correct, but crucially, suddenly, what I couldn't do was hate her Like was so easy before. it's really hard to hate someone when you listen to them speak. I Received some voicemail messages from about four kids and that like you know, the language was, it was because I don't know what you just said it I I don't think I I don't think I understand why he said it. It's pretty strong.

It was like we're in a tar and feather your family. Um, we're gonna put a bull in the back of your head like we did to. Martin Luther King Like you know N word N word n word. You inconveniently have to see them as a real human with feelings and thoughts and ideas and it becomes a lot harder to just put them into a bucket as someone I should hate.

which of course, as we all know is a huge thing that we've lost in our world of echo. Chambers where we only hear from people that we agree with and when we do hear from people we disagree with, it's often framed in an outrageous click-baity article linked on Twitter entitled watch the Senator that you agree with destroy the person you disagree with and reinforce your views that they are a monster and that you are justified in hating them. This is how I I knew Candace Owens before I listened to her speak for two hours, but now she's leaving himself a person. a human who holds views that I see is objectively bad for people and our society.

but I can't dehumanize her. Somebody started doing this prank calling on you and was this. It was all in one night. It was all in one Yeah, it was like four voices which is tied to like a boyfriend.

No so I was jealous a boyfriend's house when I got the calls and I just like put to silence it was like block number. So I was like I didn't think anything of it and then like when I listened to it like it was like some pretty horrific stuff. like I definitely cried. You know I was 17 years old and this gets me to my last takeaway and then we'll finish up this video which is that Joe Rogan models curiosity and openness and this is valuable.

It is rare and unique to watch a tough guy. Fighter TV Host dirty comedian with a microphone admit that he's wrong. Here's the thing. these statements.

Let's be real clear: I Don't have an off air and on air voice I Don't No I Have me. This is it. You typically don't see stuff like this. Do I get things wrong.

ABS Yeah because people aren't looking. That's why people. just people aren't looking at. because people just tune in on what's popular and trending and whatever's up there on their rights, right platforms, right? Medias People aren't looking at actually listening.

That's why Absolutely. I Guess it is out there. They'll try to correct them. And when it comes to powerful men in this world, most of the loudest voices are the ones promoting a confident Macho nightmare version of masculinity.

Nobody would be tougher on Isis than Donald Trump And while I don't Vibe with all of the ways that Joe expresses his manhood, I think he is a Force for good in this department in showing an eagerness to ask questions and an ability to change his mind. And yet, as I mentioned earlier, my critique is that I think he overuses this Persona this confident, curious Persona of I don't know anything I'm not an expert like if you say you disagree with me I probably disagree with me too. when I say something stupid I'm not thinking about what I'm going to say at the end. you can't overuse, um, curiosity and questioning it extremely rarely, you know I don't I don't think Joe does it deliberately, um, maliciously.

That's my take on it. I I think I think questions are fine before I say I'm just saying it to tacitly validate deceiving information and to give voice to opportunistic characters. And so in the end, I'm not really sure if this modeling of an open mind outweighs the proliferation of seductively fake facts and ideas, especially in a time where truth and facts are already scarce and Under Siege and creating confusion for all of us. Dude, they're keeping they have human animal hybrids.

There's the freaking I Have been there when people that work for the Pentagon say that they we go to the laboratory and we meet with the Ambassador We have to take higher and higher doses to meet with them. They're giving us technology and the technology worked I Don't even think it's clear that carbon dioxide is actually a problem, but we can leave that aside. They say that that 80 percent of kids who experience any sort of gender dysphoria as children grow out of it. This tension is all media.

All news outlets are subject to this seductive temptation to appeal to the worst parts. Version of it is unique because he and his show are unique. So for how much I disagree with some of his standards and fact-checking habits. I do take comfort in this guy's commitment to openness to curiosity.

Joe Wrote fact checking on a live show is quite the almost impossible. You cannot fact check something on the Fly That's something I Think Sometimes people's days, weeks, months, years to Jamie can do it on the Fly for a little bit. The full fact check is incredibly difficult and elaborate. It takes a lot of time.

Dude guys, we do actual fact checking. It can take a very long amount of time. Okay, that's just on the live show. You do as best as you can.

It'll never be. It will never be perfect I Think he doesn't even ever at it right? Sometimes he just goes on with the conversation. He just goes on from understanding it. okay.

Joe Rogan Will will nod his head and say okay, okay for the sake of the conversation. flow. Otherwise, you're gonna say yo, dude, like there was like like a thousand feet in in this whatever. Uh, actually I may be wrong about this.

Let me Google it. It's 973. Okay, okay anyway. so and then at the top, there's like there's like four flights.

Wait a minute I Think there there was four flies. Now there's only three of them. Dude, shut up Like dude, It's about the flow of conversation. It's a podcast.

What is it? Rogan is a powerful man who changes his mind who admits when he's wrong. which I think is a much needed counterbalance in an increasingly polarized world. And sometimes the best way to combat bad speech is to let that speech play out and let good speech overwhelm it with logic and reason and a better argument. But if they admit that they're wrong I then they're also admitting that they have horribly disfigured and abused thousands, maybe millions of kids.

How many people have had this done depends on what. I don't think we have exact numbers, but it's if we're talking about the drugs. it's I mean Millions It says. Over the last five years, there were at least 4 780 adolescents who started puberty blockers and at a prior gender dysphoria diagnosis.

a million sounds great. yeah. Wi-Fi Radiation is. uh, it does all kinds of bad things, including causing cancer Wi-Fi Radiation causes yeah from your cell phone I mean their cell phone tuner tumors? You know that? I mean I'm representing hundreds of people who have cell phone tumors behind the ear I wish I knew cell phone tumors behind the ear Oh I wish I knew you wanted may wish I knew yeah I wish God did me Oh I wish I knew I wish I knew you were always in favor with your cell phone.

It's a thing. Okay, okay, hey everyone for watching my big long video essay on Joe Rogan I'm thinking about this one for a long time. Um, let me tell you about a couple of things. Uh, First off, I made a poster.

a physical product a thing that exists in the real world after a decade of making things that only exist in pixels so he's in the trying to do here I enjoyed the video. So guys again. I I enjoyed it the video I Just like when these guys videos are more informative than opinionated opinionated because that one felt like it was extremely needed. it seems like it's a lot of bad faith arguments kind of done deliberately, which usually I should try to stay away from them.

Overall, um, when it's bad faith because bad faith kind of sucks. Okay, bad faith you're you're just gonna like because you're assuming the worst almost on purpose ahead of time. Um, and if you did it with everybody, everything, yeah, you wouldn't really go if you go anywhere yo this is X x on the video I'm going through my voice as well. that is anyone knows that boy I don't know.

He's just so sorry. anyone knows that boy I don't know. He's just so sorry.